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Brian Mowrey's avatar

Many readers are clearly enamored of this memetic notion that somehow polio was just 'reclassified' out of existence. The toxin theory meme. You come across a post that is about *all diseases except polio, did vaccines reduce deaths for these (no)?* and your only reaction is "polio just reclassified."

It needs to be emphasized just how badly stupid and implausible the claim is. American newspapers never depended on medical, laboratory, or statistical confirmation to report polio epidemics.

I am poking a cult. You have come across some suggestion of a "secret knowledge" that makes you one of the "awake." This is just astrology but with pesticides as your star signs. You aren't being serious. I say why would a neurotoxin not first deteriorate higher order functions - personality, cognition, vision - how could it magically just go for the motor neurons? Why wouldn't adults be more affected after years of chronic exposure to your magic pesticide star signs? Not even crickets. You don't even care about the truth, just the feeling that you get from this magic thinking about your secret "knowledge." Look, you have found someone else who also has this "knowledge" now that you scrolled below the comment you just posted (which said the same thing as them). Wait, you keep scrolling, here is another person with the secret knowledge. (Incredible, what you can learn when you read the previous comments instead of just blasting off your own copy of the meme.) Wow what a lot of you to know a "secret"! It is just a meme that has taken over your brains.

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dana ciancimino's avatar

My daughter got whooping cough a few weeks after her whooping cough vaccine back in the early 90s.

She was only a couple of months old and the majority of her care was done at home by myself, while she struggled to breathe, turning grey many times. We went to the dr almost daily and were told it was just a cold. The Dr said my descriptions of her illness sounded exactly like whooping cough, but that was silly and also impossible, as whooping cough didnt even exist any more.

I knew my child was ill but had no help from her doctors, so I traveled quite a distance to the dr who was my childhood pediatrician. He chose not to scare me, but told my mother that he knew immediately on exam, that my daughter had whooping cough, but he just told me, best to bring her in to the hospital, where of course, per his call ahead, she was immediately admitted and put into an oxygen tent with her o2 readings dipping into the 60s at times. I asked him later if the shot could have caused her whooping cough...he never did answer that one.

She recovered quickly, as I was a strong willed young mom who'd been taking care of her whooping cough at home for weeks already, and disregarded a lot of invasive hospital advice, as I'd already found ways to treat the issues (much better than the hospital seemed able to too).

After about a week in the oxygen tent, I brought her home and she recovered well.

Our whooping cough vaccines did NOT stop the rest of the family from getting whooping cough...and it's not something you die from. Not a fun illness at all, but with a little knowledge, very survivable, even for a small infant.

I think most, if not all illness, are more fairy tale boogie man than anything else.

Young people today are 100% sure that chicken pox is a deadly disease. It's all so laughable, yet very sad and concerning, how ignorance has been manipulated into fear and existential anxiety.

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