Many readers are clearly enamored of this memetic notion that somehow polio was just 'reclassified' out of existence. The toxin theory meme. You come across a post that is about *all diseases except polio, did vaccines reduce deaths for these (no)?* and your only reaction is "polio just reclassified."
It needs to be emphasized just how badly stupid and implausible the claim is. American newspapers never depended on medical, laboratory, or statistical confirmation to report polio epidemics.
I am poking a cult. You have come across some suggestion of a "secret knowledge" that makes you one of the "awake." This is just astrology but with pesticides as your star signs. You aren't being serious. I say why would a neurotoxin not first deteriorate higher order functions - personality, cognition, vision - how could it magically just go for the motor neurons? Why wouldn't adults be more affected after years of chronic exposure to your magic pesticide star signs? Not even crickets. You don't even care about the truth, just the feeling that you get from this magic thinking about your secret "knowledge." Look, you have found someone else who also has this "knowledge" now that you scrolled below the comment you just posted (which said the same thing as them). Wait, you keep scrolling, here is another person with the secret knowledge. (Incredible, what you can learn when you read the previous comments instead of just blasting off your own copy of the meme.) Wow what a lot of you to know a "secret"! It is just a meme that has taken over your brains.
You don't understand the history of disease in any way, shape or form.
You should try backtracking and begin studying source documents from the late 1700's through to the early 1900's in order to gain a better foothold on how disease is created in the medical, political and social sense.
You're not poking at anything. You are being arrogant in the extreme and quite condescending.
Those are not great traits and look especially bad when you are speaking about something you know little about. I'm not referring just to polio- you have some oceanic gaps in your understanding of disease.
It seems like it would have been helpful for "someone" to have read all of your work to this point regarding this subject and bring up questions/objections/data to be discussed in each of those posts. I can't believe the amount of research and time you must put in to create these posts (which I hugely appreciate). People who waltz in and plunk down their uneducated opinion can go suck an egg.
I don't know whether you need positive encouragement but I just thought I'd pass on that I actually just used this article in a discussion with my wife about vaccinating our son for Meningococcal B. We are in a scare campaign here at the moment, complete with all the usual propaganda (we've only had 3 cases in Queensland yet newspapers constantly report figures like 390,000 at risk - meaning unvaccinated).
On another note I'm personally getting interested in the mechanisms by which so many indigenous people died of diseases like measles (reading Anna Chapman's book about Tierra del Fuego at the moment). It doesn't seem plausible to me that so many died simply from lack of previous exposure - unexposed people in the west don't die from it at that rate, do they)? I'll give you my personal experience of what I think contributed - I worked a lot with desert aboriginal people in Western Australia who were nomads a generation ago but who now live in crowed houses and apartments. They're not culturally attuned to such living, however, and the living spaces end up with the most incredible accumulations of filth - dogshit, broken toys, old food, etc. Imagine the garbage of turn-of-the-century New York, only inside! Also the nutrition is now much poorer than what Aboriginal people call 'Bush Tucker' - goannas, wild plums, etc. Instead of a basic healthy paleo diet people started eating mission foods - flour, rice, etc.
Check your cereal packet for the list of ingredients: there is a long list of vitamins and minerals added. Then check a) when did children start eating breakfast cereals, and b) when were all these vitamins added to them.
Here is how they made the polio vax look effective;
In 1955, the year the Salk vaccine (which had issues*) for polio was introduced, patients with symptoms of aseptic meningitis and coxsackie virus were no longer included in a diagnosis of polio. A concerted effect was also made to distinguish conditions such as acute flaccid paralysis, transverse myelitis, Reye’s syndrome, GBS and chronic fatigue syndrome that would have previously been labelled as polio and to remove them from the numbers. These changes made the Salk and following Sabin 1961 vaccines appear effective against polio, although they weren't.
*What is known as the the Cutter incident occurred in 1955. Vaccines are made by adding samples from sick people to cell cultures of abnormal monkey cells. The cultures are passaged many times: some cells taken away so more grow. Heavy metal preservatives that are known neurotoxins are added to these cell cultures which are renamed vaccines. Many people in the Cutter incident were killed and became ill by the toxicity of the 'vaccines' themselves- they contained neurotoxins, RNA and proteins from people whose bodies were trying to detoxify.
Some of the contacts of vaccinees of the Salk vaccine (which had a record breaking 2 hour approval process!) became paralysed and some died. This was due to a supposed 'live' version of the polio virus being used in the vaccine.
Some children who had been vaccinated didn't get sick, but their mothers became very ill and so did their neighbours. Undoubtedly the mothers were the ones desperately spraying their homes with. DDT, and spending the most time in their homes, when they heard that a ‘live’ virus was on the loose, which explains why the mothers were the ones who became the most ill.
Wow. I never made multiple posts showing that the reclassification and DDT theories lack evidence before. Never looked into the numbers and shown they don't work. But after your comment an hour ago I went back in time and did so, showing that you are totally wrong, and the polio vaccines worked. Thanks.
This is just the PR Team playing with the proles as usual.
How is it that Substack has been permitted to publish completely uncensored anti-vax content - when all other media has been forced into draconian censorship?
And is it not fascinating how this platform that was founded just prior to covid and suddenly emerged from obscurity (I have been doing business in the digital space since 1999 and I had never heard of SS)... to become the go to platform for those opposed to the Covid vax....
How do I ask Hamish how he has been able to fend off those who have forced Google Facebook and the entire MSM complex to remove any negative comments regarding the covid vax.
Why do they leave him alone? Does he have a massive army and does he threaten to go to war with the DOD if the deep state actors try to pressure him? Does he have hundreds of billions of dollars (more than google and FB) that allow him to buy influence?
Pray tell Hamish --- how did you beat back the censors?????
Let me speculate on what happened...
As we know the Covid Operation is many decades in the planning... it was probably hatched in the 70's as the US conventional oil was peaking sending a signal to the Men Who Run the World ... that cheap energy is indeed not infinite and at some point there will be a global peak and that will collapse civilization. Something would need to be done to prevent 8 billion humans from ripping each other's faces off and eating each other when the global supply chains vapourize and global famine kicks in.
The Men Who Run the World are thorough - they war game literally thousands of scenarios to ensure they are prepared for anything ... similarly they left no stone unturned with respect to the End of the World...
They assembled a range of experts from energy analysts ... economics and finance specialists... a PR Team -- medical scientists (to create the vax that destroys the immune system) and for certain a team of the best of the best in the field of psychology who were tasked with prepping the masses for extermination.
When faced with the problem of knowing that some of the 8B (the less stupid ones)... would reject the Rat Juice vax.... they came up with a number of strategies ... they determined that mandates would be a powerful tool -- no jab no job --- they also knew that humans are not any different than Pavlov's dog so they offered incentives... like donuts... the invoked peer pressure....
But still... some hard core folks would resist... what to do about them?
Up shoots the hand of a bright young thing ... she says --- rather than fight them and bash their heads in ... why not herd them onto a space where they can be compartmentalized and run them around in circles... embed our agents and have them feed the anti vaxxers juicy studies and other tid bits about how deadly the Rat Juice is.
Hang on said the director of the team -- what if the Vaxxers see this? What if the A Vaxxers send them the studies?
No need to worry - the Vaxxers will dismiss this as conspiracy theory - they won't read anything unless its on cnnbbc... we create a parallel universe...
What we accomplish by doing this is we entertain the A-Vaxxers -- they will believe they are winning - they will believe that SURELY!!! the Vaxxers must be aware of these studies and the harms done by the Rat Juice. If not now - then tomorrow or next week ... it's so overwhelming that surely the MUST wake up! But of course they never wake up because they refuse to look.
The A Vaxxers believe they are winning ... therefore they just keep clattering away on their key boards high fiving every time Kirsch or Malone or one of the other embedded agents drops a revelation.
And most importantly - they NEVER take any action that might upset the plan... they never get violent and cause us to send out the anti terrorist squads (that are standing by)... this guarantees the extermination things don't get messy. We all know the goal is to eliminate 8B with as little suffering as possible.
Sounds like a great plan says the Director.
What do you suggest we call this platform that we will use to corral the anti vaxxers ... monitor them ... and feed them the studies?
The bright young thing says ... Substack.
Ok says the director -- find another Zuckerberg-type flunky --- and have him or her be the front for this ...
It wouldn't work because substack leaks like a sieve into uncensored and unmoderated media like email and messaging apps. And think about the sly use of carrot emojis: people cannot be corralled like that!
Good article - it's not just about mortality though, seems vaccines have questionable benefit on that, but about prevalence of disease and its morbidity. Your first graph from NY on measles shows a clear decline in prevalence with onset of vaccination. I would not wish any of these diseases on anyone regardless of their declining mortality- they are often extremely unpleasant and cause immense suffering and sometimes non-lethal yet life altering sequelae (eg paralysis from polio, cardiomyopathy from diphtheria)
I would first make a carve-out for diphtheria. Being pumped to the brim with a toxin that just outright kills cells is undesirable during any stage of life. And, the disease was almost unknown before urbanization - https://unglossed.substack.com/p/diphtheria-the-forgotten-mystery - so elimination is preferable but also theoretically does not require vaccination. We should experiment with letting go of the Dumbo's feather here, imo.
Measles and etc., this is the territory where the 'often' of nonlethal sequelae isn't different than the 'often' of random bad luck with our own hardware. So I am skeptical that any kind of quality-of-life improvement really can come from swinging at all these gophers. Someone gets measles and has a bad outcome. Go back in time and vax them - 10 years later, who is to say, they don't just get mono and have a bad outcome? You take away the big challenges and biology will still fail sometimes, just on the lesser challenges.
This is my personal intuition. Societies can make their own consensus as far as these things.
However, ethically, as long as there is any chance of detriment or deprivation of benefit, all vaccination is just a trolley problem. e.g., hurt 1 kid to help 5? What about 1 to help 5000? There isn't any correct positive answer - medical ethics doesn't get special status just because "medical."
There is a thing called a maturation crisis that happens in children when they have a childhood disease at roughly the correct time. it is almost as if our bodies have learned to harness the inevitable (endemic disease) by selecting for those that benefit from it.
The trolley problem has numerous earlier switches that shift the runaway coach to safe sidings. These include the usual living condition improvements but also specifically Vitamin-D3 and Vitamin-A repletion. There is no need to get to the last switch.
I will publish my modified Trolley problem diagram on Facebook (under my name) in a few minutes again.
Something you can add to your list of data points is the following. Vitamin-D3 was promoted in Scotland at the same time they were measuring the benefits of HPV against HP which is also mitigated with Vitamin-D3 well worth a read.
The 'last switch' can be viewed as optional, sure. The point is that medical ethics cannot sit at the helm pulling the last switch and say, "I have special permission - because I am science: I must sacrifice the few." It's still just a basic ethical question and there still is no correct positive answer.
Appreciate your approach. When endorsing the Sabin vaccine, did you have the literature on non-specific effects of vaccines (especially DTP) in mind? If yes, on what grounds do you assume the Sabin vaccine to be beneficial overall? What do you make of the situation in India for example where the vaccine strain has become dominant?
I am skeptical of the literature except in so far as it shows that "we don't know if there really is a net benefit to anything." So, the literature suggests "live vaccines good, dead vaccines bad." And this would suggest that OPV is a winner.
But is this better than reaching some intuitive conclusions based on modern understanding of immunity? We know that the immune system calibrates itself according to encountered immune challenges. So intuitively, an immune system trained on a bunch of inert antigens is going to be limp-wristed vs. one trained on real pathogens invading cells, replicating, creating DAMPS along with PAMPS. So the OPV is just the equivalent of learning to drive in a parking lot with cones instead of a computer simulation. It's intuitively superior. Though it should be kept in mind with this metaphor that most people were not seriously affected by regular polio. You could give regular polio on a sugar cube too, and it would be harmless, except for those who are susceptible, and I believe that needle injection provocation drove the bulk of susceptibility throughout the polio era.
I don’t really know what you are talking about.. The thread appears in my email with the ability to comment, I simply follow the link provided and post the comment.. I don’t know where they end up or in what order they appear and apparently if you don’t respond in 24hrs the link doesn’t work or the thread has been deleted.. I don’t usually comment on substacks unless I feel the conversation could be educational for those that read it. I always look forward to substack responses and learning new things from people like you, however, it’s rare people turn out to be as rude as you.
Anyway, best of luck to you, have a great holiday season and try to understand that even if you feel you are right in a situation, you can still practice kindness and patience with other humans.
Polio started dropping dramatically before the introduction of vaccines. Please check. Polio was largely caused by widespread spraying of pesticides such as DDT.
It must not allow me to post links. I believe the data you are talking about is specific for DDT? The missing link i posted also compares BHC vs Polio (1940-1970) with interesting findings as well.
“BHC (benzene hexachloride), a persistent, organochlorine pesticide, that is several times more lethal than DDT, in terms of LD50, i.e., the lethal dosage required to kill 50 percent of a test population.
“Unlike the situation with DDT, in which there have been few recorded fatalities, there have been a number of fatalities following poisoning by the cyclodiene and hexachlorocyclohexane-type insecticides. The chlorinated cyclodiene insecticides are among the most toxic and environmentally persistent pesticides known.” (Hayes & Laws)
As shown in the graph below, BHC was produced in 1945-1954 at quantities similar to DDT. In spite of BHC’s lethal quality, it has received much less publicity than DDT. While DDT was banned for such things as an association with the thinning of eagles’ eggs, BHC was phased out of production because it was found, after 15 years, to impart a bad taste to food. It is still used in developing nations. It is tempting to ask whether the highly public DDT was “fronting” for the more dangerous BHC. BHC’s correlation with polio incidence is also astonishing.”
It includes lead-arsenic graphs and then takes all 4 top chemicals and graphs them according to polio cases. Simply astonishing. But you must already know all this cause it’s not magic knowledge!
If one is just going to fish around the entire history of chemical developments of the 20th century until finding whatever matches for one or two years when squinting, this isn't serious. You could "explain" anything this way -- baseball trends, the civil rights act, famous rock star deaths.
I understand what you’re saying, not every correlation is worth investigating.. like Mexican lemon imports prevent highway deaths.
I get it.
However, by the comments on your post, it would appear that many think it’s a correlation worth talking about.
When you start down the real path to healing after damaging your health for years under allopathic care, you realize what truly causes illness.. Get the toxins out, fix the deficiencies and people stop getting sick regardless of the germs.. looks like many of your readers believe this too and aren’t being fooled by “there’s no correlation between the launch of the worst known neurotoxins of the time being cascaded into the food chain and people having neurological damage” argument. We understand big pharma and how they work and it didn’t start with the covid vax.
But they are being fooled. The mark of being fooled is to have no answer to even the one or two criticisms I've bothered to point out. Here, a third: Why almost no repeat attacks? What about being "poisoned" to the point of losing a lot of motor function confers protection to being "poisoned" again? How is this "poison" that is flying around paralyzing people also only finding previously "unpoisoned" people to attack (acute paralysis of previously spared limbs)? This is such a huge, obvious, huge, gigantic, incredible, explosive problem with the theory. Isn't even addressed in Turtles - because how could it be. There's absolutely nothing rational to say.
Have you ever heard the stories of nonverbal autistic children getting sick with crazy high fevers and upon coming out of them begin talking?
Or going back even further, when small pox wasn’t ‘eradicated’ when a terribly arthritic man (who hadn’t walked in 10-15years) came down with small pox and upon recovering found he could walk again with no pain?
The body is amazing. Fevers, coughing diarrhea, vomiting, rashes, etc all these symptoms are the body trying to get rid of toxins and heal itself. When we suppress our symptoms we contribute to our own slow demise through long term low grade chronic illness by leaving the toxins inside. But by all means pop another pill, take another vaccine and never suffer another symptom again, cause that’s working out real well for us, right?
As far as being poisoned again, are you overlooking the fact that PPS (post polio syndrome) affects between 25 and 40 out of every 100 polio survivors (with most recent data as high as 80!)? So repeat attacks are definitely an issue and that doesn’t sound like very good protection to me. Which was your argument right? That people who got it didn’t get sick again?
And if you look at PPS further: “After a period of prolonged stability, individuals who had been infected and recovered from polio begin to experience new signs and symptoms, characterised by muscular atrophy (decreased muscle mass), weakness, pain, and fatigue in limbs that were originally affected or IN LIMBS THAT DID NOT SEEM TO HAVE BEEN AFFECTED AT THE TIME OF THE INITIAL POLIO ILLNESS.” So to clarify, people who had polio actually did get it again and in other limbs? Which you said they didn’t and that’s why poisoning didn’t fit?
Anyway, at the very least, I’d say there is plenty of room for me to hypothesize that further poisoning just might be taking place and it is also possible that the toxins being stored in our tissues may be released at other stages in life, dependent upon any number of reasons.. such as the weakening of our immune systems through stress and/or lifestyle choices or the bodies need to detoxify (which can lead to harm if the toxins are not eliminated fast enough).
Anywho, I do believe this has explained your points both rationally and plausibly without any huge, gigantic, explosive problems.
Hiya Shannon, I'm also fascinated by the improvements seen in autism (which is a GI imbalance with neurological symptoms) after high fever. It's thought to be due to a heat shock protein, 65 I think. The same effect has been noted with dietary supplementation with sulphorafane which seems to also improve mitochondrial function, improve synaptic connection and decrease neuroinflammation and oxidative stress which leads to improvements in ASD behavioural symptoms. https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/mmr-and-autism
I don't know what evidence exists for saying children weren't poisoned by DDT and its variants, repeatedly, ie each summer.
Post polio has nothing to do with the problem I am describing. How is the prior stability explained - 30 to 40 years? How is the absence of repeat acute attack during polio *epidemics* explainable. Just throwing words around without regard to the concepts behind the words is nonsense.
*edit: I had to run from computer.
Here is as simple as possible, what you are doing wrong.
"Polio" has an identity. It is the aggregate of experiences and observations that is referred to when people say "polio." Yes this is a collection of different qualities, but that doesn't mean there is no identity. When you say "heart attack" you have a lot of different qualities as well, but you have just referred to a totally different aggregate of referred-to observations etc.
So then you say "I am going to explain 'polio'" - but you don't adhere to the identity of "polio" at all. You deny there even is one. It was epidemic paralysis, it didn't strike the same kid twice. That is "polio." Poison is obviously not the cause of "polio" unless you can explain this magic no-poison-twice rule - without reaching for a concept that wasn't "polio." Post-polio is not polio.
Neither polio, smallpox nor heart disease has an identity like a cat or a dog. Florence Nightingale knew this. You can't point to collections of symptoms and say this is a separate species of thing nor do they have single causes. They can't be caught but are the result of the environmental conditions.
'Polio' has common ‘flu’ like symptoms of detoxification such as fever, sore threat, tiredness, stomach pain, nausea, headache as well as sometimes acute paralysis (mostly in summer months, when most agricultural spraying was done) and death, and was claimed by doctors to be one disease.
Have you some evidence that the same child wasn't paralysed more than once?
Post polio is simply a label for the same symptoms as polio, however the patient has already had polio, therefore it is re-named post polio.. not because it is different from polio symptoms. It’s semantics.
Many readers are clearly enamored of this memetic notion that somehow polio was just 'reclassified' out of existence. The toxin theory meme. You come across a post that is about *all diseases except polio, did vaccines reduce deaths for these (no)?* and your only reaction is "polio just reclassified."
It needs to be emphasized just how badly stupid and implausible the claim is. American newspapers never depended on medical, laboratory, or statistical confirmation to report polio epidemics.
I am poking a cult. You have come across some suggestion of a "secret knowledge" that makes you one of the "awake." This is just astrology but with pesticides as your star signs. You aren't being serious. I say why would a neurotoxin not first deteriorate higher order functions - personality, cognition, vision - how could it magically just go for the motor neurons? Why wouldn't adults be more affected after years of chronic exposure to your magic pesticide star signs? Not even crickets. You don't even care about the truth, just the feeling that you get from this magic thinking about your secret "knowledge." Look, you have found someone else who also has this "knowledge" now that you scrolled below the comment you just posted (which said the same thing as them). Wait, you keep scrolling, here is another person with the secret knowledge. (Incredible, what you can learn when you read the previous comments instead of just blasting off your own copy of the meme.) Wow what a lot of you to know a "secret"! It is just a meme that has taken over your brains.
You don't understand the history of disease in any way, shape or form.
You should try backtracking and begin studying source documents from the late 1700's through to the early 1900's in order to gain a better foothold on how disease is created in the medical, political and social sense.
You're not poking at anything. You are being arrogant in the extreme and quite condescending.
Those are not great traits and look especially bad when you are speaking about something you know little about. I'm not referring just to polio- you have some oceanic gaps in your understanding of disease.
I'm being condescending?!
I should try "vaguely looking at the source documents from late 1700s through the early 1900s especially Tuesdays," obviously.
It seems like it would have been helpful for "someone" to have read all of your work to this point regarding this subject and bring up questions/objections/data to be discussed in each of those posts. I can't believe the amount of research and time you must put in to create these posts (which I hugely appreciate). People who waltz in and plunk down their uneducated opinion can go suck an egg.
Thanks!
This person says she takes fourteen vaxes a day and it makes her age in reverse. Not sure what to say to someone like this!
I don't know whether you need positive encouragement but I just thought I'd pass on that I actually just used this article in a discussion with my wife about vaccinating our son for Meningococcal B. We are in a scare campaign here at the moment, complete with all the usual propaganda (we've only had 3 cases in Queensland yet newspapers constantly report figures like 390,000 at risk - meaning unvaccinated).
On another note I'm personally getting interested in the mechanisms by which so many indigenous people died of diseases like measles (reading Anna Chapman's book about Tierra del Fuego at the moment). It doesn't seem plausible to me that so many died simply from lack of previous exposure - unexposed people in the west don't die from it at that rate, do they)? I'll give you my personal experience of what I think contributed - I worked a lot with desert aboriginal people in Western Australia who were nomads a generation ago but who now live in crowed houses and apartments. They're not culturally attuned to such living, however, and the living spaces end up with the most incredible accumulations of filth - dogshit, broken toys, old food, etc. Imagine the garbage of turn-of-the-century New York, only inside! Also the nutrition is now much poorer than what Aboriginal people call 'Bush Tucker' - goannas, wild plums, etc. Instead of a basic healthy paleo diet people started eating mission foods - flour, rice, etc.
We know how to cure polio. We don't want to know. It's the same as COVID, measles, influenza and more.
Check your cereal packet for the list of ingredients: there is a long list of vitamins and minerals added. Then check a) when did children start eating breakfast cereals, and b) when were all these vitamins added to them.
Oh dear.
Here is how they made the polio vax look effective;
In 1955, the year the Salk vaccine (which had issues*) for polio was introduced, patients with symptoms of aseptic meningitis and coxsackie virus were no longer included in a diagnosis of polio. A concerted effect was also made to distinguish conditions such as acute flaccid paralysis, transverse myelitis, Reye’s syndrome, GBS and chronic fatigue syndrome that would have previously been labelled as polio and to remove them from the numbers. These changes made the Salk and following Sabin 1961 vaccines appear effective against polio, although they weren't.
*What is known as the the Cutter incident occurred in 1955. Vaccines are made by adding samples from sick people to cell cultures of abnormal monkey cells. The cultures are passaged many times: some cells taken away so more grow. Heavy metal preservatives that are known neurotoxins are added to these cell cultures which are renamed vaccines. Many people in the Cutter incident were killed and became ill by the toxicity of the 'vaccines' themselves- they contained neurotoxins, RNA and proteins from people whose bodies were trying to detoxify.
Some of the contacts of vaccinees of the Salk vaccine (which had a record breaking 2 hour approval process!) became paralysed and some died. This was due to a supposed 'live' version of the polio virus being used in the vaccine.
Some children who had been vaccinated didn't get sick, but their mothers became very ill and so did their neighbours. Undoubtedly the mothers were the ones desperately spraying their homes with. DDT, and spending the most time in their homes, when they heard that a ‘live’ virus was on the loose, which explains why the mothers were the ones who became the most ill.
And as you should know by now there's no evidence that what is termed 'polio' is caused by a virus but lots that DDT and immobilisation of 'patients' is involved https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/toxicology-vs-virology-the-rockefeller
Wow. I never made multiple posts showing that the reclassification and DDT theories lack evidence before. Never looked into the numbers and shown they don't work. But after your comment an hour ago I went back in time and did so, showing that you are totally wrong, and the polio vaccines worked. Thanks.
https://unglossed.substack.com/p/the-polio-reclassification-theory
https://unglossed.substack.com/p/the-polio-toxin-theory-pt-1#§not-ddt
https://unglossed.substack.com/p/the-polio-vaccines-worked
Oh my. I am so sorry I didn't read this when you published. 🤣 Wow. 🙄
Then there is this
https://billricejr.substack.com/p/and-so-it-begins/
This is just the PR Team playing with the proles as usual.
How is it that Substack has been permitted to publish completely uncensored anti-vax content - when all other media has been forced into draconian censorship?
And is it not fascinating how this platform that was founded just prior to covid and suddenly emerged from obscurity (I have been doing business in the digital space since 1999 and I had never heard of SS)... to become the go to platform for those opposed to the Covid vax....
How do I ask Hamish how he has been able to fend off those who have forced Google Facebook and the entire MSM complex to remove any negative comments regarding the covid vax.
Why do they leave him alone? Does he have a massive army and does he threaten to go to war with the DOD if the deep state actors try to pressure him? Does he have hundreds of billions of dollars (more than google and FB) that allow him to buy influence?
Pray tell Hamish --- how did you beat back the censors?????
Let me speculate on what happened...
As we know the Covid Operation is many decades in the planning... it was probably hatched in the 70's as the US conventional oil was peaking sending a signal to the Men Who Run the World ... that cheap energy is indeed not infinite and at some point there will be a global peak and that will collapse civilization. Something would need to be done to prevent 8 billion humans from ripping each other's faces off and eating each other when the global supply chains vapourize and global famine kicks in.
The Men Who Run the World are thorough - they war game literally thousands of scenarios to ensure they are prepared for anything ... similarly they left no stone unturned with respect to the End of the World...
They assembled a range of experts from energy analysts ... economics and finance specialists... a PR Team -- medical scientists (to create the vax that destroys the immune system) and for certain a team of the best of the best in the field of psychology who were tasked with prepping the masses for extermination.
When faced with the problem of knowing that some of the 8B (the less stupid ones)... would reject the Rat Juice vax.... they came up with a number of strategies ... they determined that mandates would be a powerful tool -- no jab no job --- they also knew that humans are not any different than Pavlov's dog so they offered incentives... like donuts... the invoked peer pressure....
But still... some hard core folks would resist... what to do about them?
Up shoots the hand of a bright young thing ... she says --- rather than fight them and bash their heads in ... why not herd them onto a space where they can be compartmentalized and run them around in circles... embed our agents and have them feed the anti vaxxers juicy studies and other tid bits about how deadly the Rat Juice is.
Hang on said the director of the team -- what if the Vaxxers see this? What if the A Vaxxers send them the studies?
No need to worry - the Vaxxers will dismiss this as conspiracy theory - they won't read anything unless its on cnnbbc... we create a parallel universe...
What we accomplish by doing this is we entertain the A-Vaxxers -- they will believe they are winning - they will believe that SURELY!!! the Vaxxers must be aware of these studies and the harms done by the Rat Juice. If not now - then tomorrow or next week ... it's so overwhelming that surely the MUST wake up! But of course they never wake up because they refuse to look.
The A Vaxxers believe they are winning ... therefore they just keep clattering away on their key boards high fiving every time Kirsch or Malone or one of the other embedded agents drops a revelation.
And most importantly - they NEVER take any action that might upset the plan... they never get violent and cause us to send out the anti terrorist squads (that are standing by)... this guarantees the extermination things don't get messy. We all know the goal is to eliminate 8B with as little suffering as possible.
Sounds like a great plan says the Director.
What do you suggest we call this platform that we will use to corral the anti vaxxers ... monitor them ... and feed them the studies?
The bright young thing says ... Substack.
Ok says the director -- find another Zuckerberg-type flunky --- and have him or her be the front for this ...
Consider it done.
For more details on this story see UEP: https://www.headsupster.com/forumthread?shortId=220
It wouldn't work because substack leaks like a sieve into uncensored and unmoderated media like email and messaging apps. And think about the sly use of carrot emojis: people cannot be corralled like that!
It does allow "them" to identify the readers and commenters.
Music suggestion: "I Have a Little List" From Gilbert and Sullivan's "The Mikado."
All vaccines are poisonous shit. Injecting or injecting poisonous shit has never been good for health.
However big pharma and the industrial medical complex have persuaded many that having poisonous shit is a Good Thing.
What they do not tell you is that it is good for big pharma business. At least they don't tell the masses so much as tell shareholders etc.
https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2022/11/14/vaccination-industry-in-a-nutshell/
Good article - it's not just about mortality though, seems vaccines have questionable benefit on that, but about prevalence of disease and its morbidity. Your first graph from NY on measles shows a clear decline in prevalence with onset of vaccination. I would not wish any of these diseases on anyone regardless of their declining mortality- they are often extremely unpleasant and cause immense suffering and sometimes non-lethal yet life altering sequelae (eg paralysis from polio, cardiomyopathy from diphtheria)
Well, this is where the conversation begins.
I would first make a carve-out for diphtheria. Being pumped to the brim with a toxin that just outright kills cells is undesirable during any stage of life. And, the disease was almost unknown before urbanization - https://unglossed.substack.com/p/diphtheria-the-forgotten-mystery - so elimination is preferable but also theoretically does not require vaccination. We should experiment with letting go of the Dumbo's feather here, imo.
Measles and etc., this is the territory where the 'often' of nonlethal sequelae isn't different than the 'often' of random bad luck with our own hardware. So I am skeptical that any kind of quality-of-life improvement really can come from swinging at all these gophers. Someone gets measles and has a bad outcome. Go back in time and vax them - 10 years later, who is to say, they don't just get mono and have a bad outcome? You take away the big challenges and biology will still fail sometimes, just on the lesser challenges.
This is my personal intuition. Societies can make their own consensus as far as these things.
However, ethically, as long as there is any chance of detriment or deprivation of benefit, all vaccination is just a trolley problem. e.g., hurt 1 kid to help 5? What about 1 to help 5000? There isn't any correct positive answer - medical ethics doesn't get special status just because "medical."
There is a thing called a maturation crisis that happens in children when they have a childhood disease at roughly the correct time. it is almost as if our bodies have learned to harness the inevitable (endemic disease) by selecting for those that benefit from it.
The trolley problem has numerous earlier switches that shift the runaway coach to safe sidings. These include the usual living condition improvements but also specifically Vitamin-D3 and Vitamin-A repletion. There is no need to get to the last switch.
I will publish my modified Trolley problem diagram on Facebook (under my name) in a few minutes again.
Something you can add to your list of data points is the following. Vitamin-D3 was promoted in Scotland at the same time they were measuring the benefits of HPV against HP which is also mitigated with Vitamin-D3 well worth a read.
https://www.bmj.com/content/365/bmj.l1161/rr-8
The 'last switch' can be viewed as optional, sure. The point is that medical ethics cannot sit at the helm pulling the last switch and say, "I have special permission - because I am science: I must sacrifice the few." It's still just a basic ethical question and there still is no correct positive answer.
Appreciate your approach. When endorsing the Sabin vaccine, did you have the literature on non-specific effects of vaccines (especially DTP) in mind? If yes, on what grounds do you assume the Sabin vaccine to be beneficial overall? What do you make of the situation in India for example where the vaccine strain has become dominant?
I am skeptical of the literature except in so far as it shows that "we don't know if there really is a net benefit to anything." So, the literature suggests "live vaccines good, dead vaccines bad." And this would suggest that OPV is a winner.
But is this better than reaching some intuitive conclusions based on modern understanding of immunity? We know that the immune system calibrates itself according to encountered immune challenges. So intuitively, an immune system trained on a bunch of inert antigens is going to be limp-wristed vs. one trained on real pathogens invading cells, replicating, creating DAMPS along with PAMPS. So the OPV is just the equivalent of learning to drive in a parking lot with cones instead of a computer simulation. It's intuitively superior. Though it should be kept in mind with this metaphor that most people were not seriously affected by regular polio. You could give regular polio on a sugar cube too, and it would be harmless, except for those who are susceptible, and I believe that needle injection provocation drove the bulk of susceptibility throughout the polio era.
Doesn't sound like that much of an endorsement when you put it like this :)
https://courses.jchristoff.com/blog/20-things-you-don-t-know-about-polio
You might find this article about Polio interesting. xxx
I don’t really know what you are talking about.. The thread appears in my email with the ability to comment, I simply follow the link provided and post the comment.. I don’t know where they end up or in what order they appear and apparently if you don’t respond in 24hrs the link doesn’t work or the thread has been deleted.. I don’t usually comment on substacks unless I feel the conversation could be educational for those that read it. I always look forward to substack responses and learning new things from people like you, however, it’s rare people turn out to be as rude as you.
Anyway, best of luck to you, have a great holiday season and try to understand that even if you feel you are right in a situation, you can still practice kindness and patience with other humans.
Spammers like me? Wow. Gross.
You double-posted your diatribe about magic fevers. I removed one of two copies. Now you're whinging about me removing comments.
I would have happily replied to your comment but it appears you deleted an entire thread before I had the opportunity to reply.
Unfollowing.
Indeed. Manual curation of time-sorted comments is *so unfair* to spammers like you
Polio started dropping dramatically before the introduction of vaccines. Please check. Polio was largely caused by widespread spraying of pesticides such as DDT.
It must not allow me to post links. I believe the data you are talking about is specific for DDT? The missing link i posted also compares BHC vs Polio (1940-1970) with interesting findings as well.
“BHC (benzene hexachloride), a persistent, organochlorine pesticide, that is several times more lethal than DDT, in terms of LD50, i.e., the lethal dosage required to kill 50 percent of a test population.
“Unlike the situation with DDT, in which there have been few recorded fatalities, there have been a number of fatalities following poisoning by the cyclodiene and hexachlorocyclohexane-type insecticides. The chlorinated cyclodiene insecticides are among the most toxic and environmentally persistent pesticides known.” (Hayes & Laws)
As shown in the graph below, BHC was produced in 1945-1954 at quantities similar to DDT. In spite of BHC’s lethal quality, it has received much less publicity than DDT. While DDT was banned for such things as an association with the thinning of eagles’ eggs, BHC was phased out of production because it was found, after 15 years, to impart a bad taste to food. It is still used in developing nations. It is tempting to ask whether the highly public DDT was “fronting” for the more dangerous BHC. BHC’s correlation with polio incidence is also astonishing.”
It includes lead-arsenic graphs and then takes all 4 top chemicals and graphs them according to polio cases. Simply astonishing. But you must already know all this cause it’s not magic knowledge!
I meant DDT in a generic sense. Thank you for correcting me.
If one is just going to fish around the entire history of chemical developments of the 20th century until finding whatever matches for one or two years when squinting, this isn't serious. You could "explain" anything this way -- baseball trends, the civil rights act, famous rock star deaths.
I understand what you’re saying, not every correlation is worth investigating.. like Mexican lemon imports prevent highway deaths.
I get it.
However, by the comments on your post, it would appear that many think it’s a correlation worth talking about.
When you start down the real path to healing after damaging your health for years under allopathic care, you realize what truly causes illness.. Get the toxins out, fix the deficiencies and people stop getting sick regardless of the germs.. looks like many of your readers believe this too and aren’t being fooled by “there’s no correlation between the launch of the worst known neurotoxins of the time being cascaded into the food chain and people having neurological damage” argument. We understand big pharma and how they work and it didn’t start with the covid vax.
But they are being fooled. The mark of being fooled is to have no answer to even the one or two criticisms I've bothered to point out. Here, a third: Why almost no repeat attacks? What about being "poisoned" to the point of losing a lot of motor function confers protection to being "poisoned" again? How is this "poison" that is flying around paralyzing people also only finding previously "unpoisoned" people to attack (acute paralysis of previously spared limbs)? This is such a huge, obvious, huge, gigantic, incredible, explosive problem with the theory. Isn't even addressed in Turtles - because how could it be. There's absolutely nothing rational to say.
Where is the evidence for 'almost no repeat attacks'?
Have you ever heard the stories of nonverbal autistic children getting sick with crazy high fevers and upon coming out of them begin talking?
Or going back even further, when small pox wasn’t ‘eradicated’ when a terribly arthritic man (who hadn’t walked in 10-15years) came down with small pox and upon recovering found he could walk again with no pain?
The body is amazing. Fevers, coughing diarrhea, vomiting, rashes, etc all these symptoms are the body trying to get rid of toxins and heal itself. When we suppress our symptoms we contribute to our own slow demise through long term low grade chronic illness by leaving the toxins inside. But by all means pop another pill, take another vaccine and never suffer another symptom again, cause that’s working out real well for us, right?
As far as being poisoned again, are you overlooking the fact that PPS (post polio syndrome) affects between 25 and 40 out of every 100 polio survivors (with most recent data as high as 80!)? So repeat attacks are definitely an issue and that doesn’t sound like very good protection to me. Which was your argument right? That people who got it didn’t get sick again?
And if you look at PPS further: “After a period of prolonged stability, individuals who had been infected and recovered from polio begin to experience new signs and symptoms, characterised by muscular atrophy (decreased muscle mass), weakness, pain, and fatigue in limbs that were originally affected or IN LIMBS THAT DID NOT SEEM TO HAVE BEEN AFFECTED AT THE TIME OF THE INITIAL POLIO ILLNESS.” So to clarify, people who had polio actually did get it again and in other limbs? Which you said they didn’t and that’s why poisoning didn’t fit?
Anyway, at the very least, I’d say there is plenty of room for me to hypothesize that further poisoning just might be taking place and it is also possible that the toxins being stored in our tissues may be released at other stages in life, dependent upon any number of reasons.. such as the weakening of our immune systems through stress and/or lifestyle choices or the bodies need to detoxify (which can lead to harm if the toxins are not eliminated fast enough).
Anywho, I do believe this has explained your points both rationally and plausibly without any huge, gigantic, explosive problems.
Hiya Shannon, I'm also fascinated by the improvements seen in autism (which is a GI imbalance with neurological symptoms) after high fever. It's thought to be due to a heat shock protein, 65 I think. The same effect has been noted with dietary supplementation with sulphorafane which seems to also improve mitochondrial function, improve synaptic connection and decrease neuroinflammation and oxidative stress which leads to improvements in ASD behavioural symptoms. https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/mmr-and-autism
I don't know what evidence exists for saying children weren't poisoned by DDT and its variants, repeatedly, ie each summer.
But dosing with poisons, such as mercury or alcohol, does make the body better able to detox from them subsequently https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/lets-hope-the-monkey-pox-nonsense
🙏🏽
Post polio has nothing to do with the problem I am describing. How is the prior stability explained - 30 to 40 years? How is the absence of repeat acute attack during polio *epidemics* explainable. Just throwing words around without regard to the concepts behind the words is nonsense.
*edit: I had to run from computer.
Here is as simple as possible, what you are doing wrong.
"Polio" has an identity. It is the aggregate of experiences and observations that is referred to when people say "polio." Yes this is a collection of different qualities, but that doesn't mean there is no identity. When you say "heart attack" you have a lot of different qualities as well, but you have just referred to a totally different aggregate of referred-to observations etc.
So then you say "I am going to explain 'polio'" - but you don't adhere to the identity of "polio" at all. You deny there even is one. It was epidemic paralysis, it didn't strike the same kid twice. That is "polio." Poison is obviously not the cause of "polio" unless you can explain this magic no-poison-twice rule - without reaching for a concept that wasn't "polio." Post-polio is not polio.
Neither polio, smallpox nor heart disease has an identity like a cat or a dog. Florence Nightingale knew this. You can't point to collections of symptoms and say this is a separate species of thing nor do they have single causes. They can't be caught but are the result of the environmental conditions.
'Polio' has common ‘flu’ like symptoms of detoxification such as fever, sore threat, tiredness, stomach pain, nausea, headache as well as sometimes acute paralysis (mostly in summer months, when most agricultural spraying was done) and death, and was claimed by doctors to be one disease.
Have you some evidence that the same child wasn't paralysed more than once?
Elizabeth Kenny also managed to cure many of their so called paralysis by not immobilising them https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/toxicology-vs-virology-the-rockefeller
Post polio is simply a label for the same symptoms as polio, however the patient has already had polio, therefore it is re-named post polio.. not because it is different from polio symptoms. It’s semantics.
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