The Myth of Secondary Infection (in Covid-19)
A standalone post regarding the secondary bacterial infection myth
Part of the series “Tolerance and severe disease.”
Contents:
Part 1.5 (this post):
The myth of secondary bacterial pneumonia.
Sky-high rates of antibiotic use among hospitalized “Covid-19” patients.
The case for inflammation being (mostly) a bystander to Covid-19 pneumonia, not the cause.
Note that this post was originally written as a sub-section of Part 2; so the presentation is a bit compressed. The evidence for abundant antibiotic use is more extensive than what I have quoted below; see footnote 3.
The Myth of Secondary Infection (in Covid-19)
In Pt. 2, we will look at the features of Diffuse Alveolar Damage and “Organizing Pneumonia.” It is therefore useful at the start to distinguish the latter from the concept of “secondary [bacterial] pneumonia.”
The modern pre-expectation that Next Pandemic™ deaths would be driven by secondary bacterial infections originates from the same trio behind the recent “Rethinking vaccines” paper (see Igor’s excellent review), Morens, Taubenberger, and Fauci. It is one of the many 21st-Century predictive-programming breadcrumbs leading up to SARS-CoV-2’s appearance.
Unlike “cytokine storm,” however, the contemporary understanding of 1918 flu deaths strongly supported this modern reappraisal — so that all the trio were doing was providing a historical refresher. From Edwin O Jordan’s Epidemic Influenza:1
There is no doubt that in nearly all fatal influenza there is a pneumonic process in the lungs, although occasional patients are observed who die soon after the onset and in whom only hemorrhage of the lungs is apparent. [Several thousand examples later:]
The factors operative in the production of influenza pneumonia may be summarized as follows:
The influenza virus weakens the resistant power of the pulmonary tissues so that various bacteria are able to play the role of secondary invaders;
The precise nature of the secondary—and tertiary—invaders is largely a matter of accident, dependent on the occurrence of particular bacteria in the respiratory tract of individuals at the time of infection, and, in the case of group outbreaks, on their occurrence in contacts
The character of the resulting pneumonia, clinical and pathologic, is largely determined by the nature of the secondary invaders, whether Pfeiffer bacillus, streptococcus, pneumococcus or other organisms;
There seems little doubt that the influenza virus, besides depressing the general pulmonary resistance, also acts directly on the pulmonary tissues, causing capillary necrosis, edema and hemorrhage
Morens, Taubenberger, and Fauci affirm the same; and thus recommend intense preparation of antibiotic treatments before the Next Pandemic™. And by all appearances this occurred. So why didn’t antibiotics stave off “Covid-19 deaths”?
Despite recent rumors, it in fact happens that antibiotics were administered aggressively to hospitalized Covid-19 pneumonia patients all over the world, in absence of strong guidance (in the US at least) promoting the same:
Hat-tip, by the way, to Modern Discontent for helping me locate some of these materials:
From the citation in the slide above:2
Among 213,338 Inpatients with “Covid-19”*
All, received antibiotics: 77.3%
Ventilated, received antibiotics: 95.9%
Died in hospital, received antibiotics: 91.7%
*primary or secondary ICD-10-CM B97.29 February–April 2020 or primary or secondary U07.1 (COVID-19) April–October 2020, 716 hospitals
Antibiotics were used “empirically,” i.e. in absence of PCR or culture-confirmed bacterial infection; but they didn’t improve outcomes in any apparent manner. Altogether, secondary infections were uncommon (either because of or regardless of abundant antibiotic use):3
For COVID-19, 62/806 (8%) patients were reported as experiencing bacterial/fungal coinfection during hospital admission. […]
Despite frequent prescription of broad-spectrum empirical antimicrobials in patients with coronavirus-associated respiratory infections, there is a paucity of data to support the association with respiratory bacterial/fungal coinfection.
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pp. 268, 271. Jordan, Edwin O. (1927.) “Epidemic Influenza: A Survey.” Archived online at https://quod.lib.umich.edu/f/flu/8580flu.0016.858
Rose, AN. et al. “Trends in Antibiotic Use in United States Hospitals During the Coronavirus Disease 2019 Pandemic.” Open Forum Infect Dis. 2021 Jun; 8(6): ofab236.
Rawson, TM. et al. “Bacterial and Fungal Coinfection in Individuals With Coronavirus: A Rapid Review To Support COVID-19 Antimicrobial Prescribing.” Clin Infect Dis. 2020 May 2 : ciaa530.
See also:
Hughes, S. et al. “Bacterial and fungal coinfection among hospitalized patients with COVID-19: a retrospective cohort study in a UK secondary-care setting.” Clin Microbiol Infect. 2020 Oct; 26(10): 1395–1399.
Brian I'm not sure I can agree that this short article proves the claim that I think you're making. The main paper on which you're basing it seems to be the Rose paper which states:
"Hospital-wide antibiotic use was significantly lower during March–October 2020 compared with March–October 2019"
There are other factors to consider
(1) massively reduced community prescribing of respiratory antibiotics (macrolides and cephalosporins) which you can ascertain from openprescribing.net. Prescribing late after an admission for pneumonia, during the phase or organising pneumonia, is a terrible pathway for preventing death from pneumonia
(2) you state that antibiotics - and reinforce this with a leading question - did not reduce deaths from COVID but the Zelenko, Kory and Tyson protocols and cohorts had death rates 10-20x lower than other community rates - using antibiotics.
(3) Crytogenic organising pneumonia is treated by steroids after treatment with antibiotics and exclusion of known causes of pneumonia. There has been to date no differentiation proven between COP and covid "pneumonia". If you don't have a known cause of the pneumonia (which was the case because "COVID" was an unknown entity), assuming there is no bacterial (or atypical bacterial) cause of that pneumonia - when this is one of only two valid treatment pathways (the other being steroids) is dangerous.
(4) It is unlikely that this syndrome was caused by a synthetic virus alone, and quite possible that there was a vector involved such as mycoplasma or coxiella. Without excluding these vectors it is narrow minded to purposefully withhold antibiotics.
Thanks
Coming down with Delta in Sept 21 I sent a message to my pretty tired primary care doc through the portal. I reported positive test and coughing up yellow stuff. She called that evening in urging me to go to the ER. I asked her if she'd prescribe azithromycin, one course. She did that. I yessed her the phone about going to the ER and then stayed home, took the Zpak and after a day yellow crud gone. I'm guessing the bacterial infection set in fast? But the Zpak took care of it, fast.