What about when you look at TOTAL non-COVID deaths, before versus after the vaccine rollout? There does seem to be a concerning post-vaccine increase (links below). Restricting to only cardiac / circulatory deaths could be misleading because of the phenomenon of actual cardiovascular deaths being classified under the victim's underlying conditions instead (I have seen this happen with my own eyes, and I'm not the only one), which would very conveniently "muddy the waters" around a rise in cardiovascular deaths itself. Therefore, looking at total non-COVID deaths is much more reliable.
Perhaps more importantly, it would be a mistake to regard "CDC data" as completely trustworthy. You'll probably be interested in these documents: the initial CDC death data report for 2021 stated a death rate of 841.6 https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7117e1.htm, but then they quietly corrected it 8 months later to 879.7 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db456.pdf, which is a ~5% discrepancy and corresponds to >100,000 omitted deaths among the U.S. population. Regardless, the 2021 numbers don't look good at all for the vaccine because the 2020 age-adjusted rate was 835.4, and even subtracting COVID deaths, the remaining excess in 2021 corresponds to ~80,000 excess non-COVID deaths compared to 2020. But I would wager that even the "corrected" 2021 numbers aren't revealing the entire bad news. Remember that the Pfizer and Moderna gold-standard RCTs did show a 16% increase in non-COVID deaths with vaccine vs. placebo, and if I had to bet my life on it, this absolutely was NOT "just a fluke" when taking all the other evidence into account.
(*edit: this reply discusses total deaths rather than total non-Covid**) The 2021 excess deaths question just comes down to the "anti-control groups," i.e. the states with the highest vax uptake. If the vax was primarily responsible for the huge spike in 2021 (working age) deaths, these deaths would heat-map to blue states. Instead they heat-map to lower-vax (less healthy) states. Likewise, you wouldn't have countries like South Korea, Sweden, France, etc. with net deficits in 2021/2022 working age deaths (reflecting the same performance as 2020) if the vax was moving the numbers very much.
That's not to say it's not killing anybody. Just that the stats seem to be a mirror of infection outcomes. Two anti-controls to look at here are Illinois and Massachusetts https://unglossed.substack.com/p/covid-cases-vs-middle-aged-excess - no inflection in excess deaths around the booster EUA, because unlike southern/midwestern states they did not have a wave of Delta deaths. So the question is, is the vax contributing to that modest baseline slope? Maybe. But the big national numbers that led to Dowd's celebrity claims come from the collection of states with big summer surges, i.e. from the virus.
**I'm not sure "total non-Covid" would get around the categorization problems you mention. Note that these aren't really a CDC data flaw so much as a reflection of medical record-keeping always being and having been subjective and malleable.
Very true on a generalized high death rate, but they have been trending to fewer deaths per 1000 for years (as countries generally do when they begin climbing out from third world status). That paper makes sense. Leave a virus alone and you predominantly get three primary curves followed by true
endemicity--unlike the vaccinated western world now. Check out this death rate by year curve and you can see that Covid doesn't seem to have had an impact. https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/NGA/nigeria/death-rate. And ya gotta love those U.N. projections too...so climate-esc.
I wish someone would explain the Covid and excess deaths from Afrian countries of Nigeria, Niger, etc. If Covid is causing deaths and then heart attacks, which I do believe it is here, why isn't it happening in those countries? It's not Vitamin D as they have been tested as relatively low in the recent past. They were, however, very late on starting the mRNA experiment (the sweet spot appears to be low vaccination rates prior to or going into the Delta wave).
It doesn't seem like we have any data for a lot of countries more recent than 2019 yet. Nigeria's ministry of health doesn't seem to do statistics. So I don't know if we can know anything about post-infection deaths. But I would predict that the impact of the virus wouldn't be very strong because there's already plenty of infections of all types already causing the same health impacts, it's just in the insulated West that you can see the small impact of the virus.
As for Delta, that would have been arriving when there was already high natural immunity in a lot of countries, https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.03.08.23286979v1 for healthcare staff in DRC, Sierra Leone, and Uganda shows 70 - 90% unvaccinated natural immunity, eventually about 50% HCW vaccine uptake in the latter two countries (mostly AstraZeneca).
hmmmm. stepping back, if the spike protein is the bad part of SC2, and thus causing illness and these circulatory deaths, then my first thought would be that the spike-only vax would encourage more of those problems. Are there any suggestions here regarding the role that the nucleocapsid is playing in either direct harm or "turbo-charging" of the spike that would create more of a viral infection circulatory problem than a vax circulatory problem?
When it comes to the deaths stats there's the argument that "same is more," because sans the vax we would have been in PFE / reversion to mean territory, but I don't buy this, because places with less vax had actual more death in 2021 (e.g. southern US, eastern Europe) while the samers had more vax.
Everything in the virus is potentially toxic, just as with any virus, we just usually get a hold on these things when we're young and telomeres are infinite. Maybe you would expect similar clotting problems but the virus could be much worse for the heart. With another "adult virus," HIV, rates of sudden cardiac death are very high.
If E is a viroporin maybe it is messing up ion channels in heart cells. If M and various nsps interfere with mitochondria (https://unglossed.substack.com/p/the-virus-and-hpv) you probably don't want them in your heart.
Hypoxia, obviously, is directly harmful to the heart and a cause of cardiac arrest. Then there's vagus nerve stuff, potentially messing up the wiring. So while most of the research tying infections to heart complications is still a bit spurious, there's probably a link, because viruses give adults heart problems (also a second Biobank study finds a link, and Biobank is a good resource https://academic.oup.com/cardiovascres/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cvr/cvac195/6987834).
I've never been as worried about spike vs. any other protein. Lot of hype in that space over peptides, but most toxicities are going to caused by secondary structures and you've got a lot more going on in Orf1. Generally I think the toxicity of the shots would be the same for any unfamiliar protein, including potentially in terms of clotting.
I don't buy it. The LNP's, PEG and spike at much higher concentrations than natural infection are causing the excess deaths. Look at places with low vaccine update like India. Excess mortality? Not so much.
Oh and I left off treatments. Nucleoside analogues aren't given after vaccines, but they are given after infection, so that's a source of post-infection cardiac damage. Likewise for ICU internment, sedation+ventilation, for post-infection clots.
Why would US give a rival military super power the most advanced biowarfare technology in human history? They likely have every virus on earth aerosolized at this point, thousands of gallons, ready to deploy at any time. And we're going to "war" now? The only war that's happening is against the general public worldwide.
The mad scientist video, giordano at georgetown in 2017, can give some insight. (The same podium fauci spoke at that year and told us we had a surprise pandemic coming)
Paraphrasing, "going around to different cities, get the virus onboard by permeating drinking vessels etc., create a broad ripple affect to dissolve the fiduciary between public and public health. Easier for some countries to do, that have no legal, moral or ethical rules."
US gives covid/tech to CN (no legal, moral or ethical rules, answers to no one) PLA spread it world wide. This is what I saw.
All these guys, dressed like tourists, with murder in their eyes, early jan 2020. Loves truck stop, green river utah. (call em up, and other truck stops in the area, all you journalists out there. See if any employees were there around that time) Handful of tour buses full.
There were plenty of videos online at the beginning of this shit, "tourists" systematically walking through electronics stores intentionally wiping their hands on all the displays, one, to the next one 5 seconds later, to the next display 5 seconds later. I wonder what they were wiping on the displays? Touch infected display, buy a bag of chips, walk out and you're eating lab strain covid.
Can't find any of these videos now. Somehow memory holed. Didn't google build CN's hightech slave apparatus? Thousands of mobile execution vans dispatched to harvest the organs of the wrong thinkers? Sounds like a fun place.
Anyway, I got got. Five people per isle in a small truck stop, if there was a box with 20 snickers, the person would cough on their hands, pick up 20 snickers bars, rub them all down and then move to the next item. Chex mix? Gotta cough all over my hands and wipe all those down too.
All you could hear was coughing in the joint. 100 people all coughing, rubbing down everything. Made my way to the soda dispenser, which each nozzle was being fingered by a military operator, was about to start filming but I thought you know, I'm just going to take a leak, buy my gas and get the hell out of here. Walk to the restroom, 3 military operators walking out coughing, take a leak and come out 2 minutes later. Everyone gone.
Asked the clerk, what the hell was that? They said no clue, they didn't even buy anything. Passed the buses five miles down the road.
Gotta be thousands of hours of cctv footage of this shit out there. Not really going to matter in the end, but there it is. "tourists" spreading this shit everywhere. Thanks US. Thanks CN.
All this is, is a global gang initiation. CN was living in the stone age 50 years ago, US conv. oil peaked 1970, US then built CN energy infrastructure from scratch and started exporting manufacturing to slave labor to keep the gravy train running. Couple gov bed fellows..
Global conv. oil supply entered permanent decline in 2008. We'd all already be dead by now if it weren't for shale. Bought us 15 more years of life. Drilling 5 mile wells through the hardest rocks, all at a financial loss, miles of tubing per well, miles of cement, exploding said rocks, pumping in 100's of tankers trucks full of fracking fluiding into the well to displace the oil, separate it above ground. For a 2 year well...
Shales finishing right now. The game's already over.
We've had a continuously growing energy supply for centuries (energy = economic growth, machines powered by energy replacing human labor) Every economist on earth operates from the notion that energy is infinite. This is about to become an out dated model.
There's no more economic growth coming in your lifetimes. Try to wrap your head around that.
The covid saga starts to make a lot more sense with this information, along with 15 minute cities, "green energy" built by petroleum input, EV push even though battery minerals are already maxed out at less than 1% of vehicles, no more meat because livestock eats the majority of crops that take oil to grow every step of the way, climate change/we're all dead if we don't stop using oil even though we can no longer increase output. Legacy oil companies the biggest funders of the green movement, gets the heat off their backs. Trick the true believers in the state in order to escape any blame or accountability.
So there you have it. No more economic growth for anyone (is math still allowed?), US and CN ran covid as a pre extermination gang initiation, everyone has aids now and will be easier to kill when the energy supply really starts declining in the next few years.
The whole response worldwide, you noticed, almost every country ran the CN central gov protocol. Nothing based on anything helpful. Everything based on harm and domination. This is the model for humanity in the post growth world. A giant global politburo chosing who lives and who dies, in the post growth world where there's no jobs and no economy and uncontrollable crime. Well, I guess one could control it with biowarfare perhaps.
I hope the mad scientists all get set in stocks in the public square, just for fun, as we head into collapse and then die. But I wouldn't bet on it. Guaranteed we're all going to get dusted by progressively worse lab souvenirs shortly.
The vaccine and the virus are the two delivery systems of the same biological weapon. While both can be deadly, together there is a synergistic effect. Each will lay charges (spike protein antigen SPA) throughout your system. In a subset of people these charges ( SPA) persist. A subsequent infection or inoculation lights the fuse and the resulting wave of antibodies produced directs the targeting of the immune army against the dormant foreign intruders residing in various tissues and organs (including the heart) , which become collateral damage.
Mind you, in not everyone does SPA persist or is present in enough quantity to cause noticeable harm. Why that is requires more investigation. Vaccine dose variability and immune system differences between individuals no doubt plays a role
Right, variability may mean that one of the weapon delivery systems, ie the injections, doesn't work at delivering weapon. This still seems inconsistent with the extremely high antibody levels. For the same reason, it wouldn't seem that harms after "breakthrough" infection are from prime, delay autoimmunity against residual spike since antibodies are jacked up so high to begin with.
They never meant to kill everyone, mostly focused on elderly and obese. A targeted war. There was collateral damage, as in all wars. High antibodies in survivors is protective, immune system then dials down even with high antibodies and tolerance to persistent spike develops. As antibodies wane, the individual is able to be reinfected, after which the immune system is triggered and becomes intolerant to persistent spike with ramped up antibodies leading the charge and waking up and directing lymphocytes to move in for the kill . Same thing happens during boosting
Humoral antibodies are supposed to wain and then T and B cells are what take over protecting against infection. High humoral antibodies don't necessarily stop infection yet that is what the testing is concerned with. Humoral antibodies shouldn't be the measure but disease should be. Break through nonsense is lack of efficacy, vaccine failure to do it's job. I bet those people had humoral antibodies but not the T and B cells needed to stop disease.
Infection gets stopped in the mucosa. With high enough serum neutralizing abs (IgA and IgG) enough pass through to the mucosa to be able to stop infection. As they wane, infection becomes more likely (just like the common cold). Like you say we also have memory B cells and T-Cells, but these only kick in after infection. They are protective against serious disease, in theory, unless you have persistent antigen left over from last infection or inoculation, and then they may enhance disease
Some viruses target the young as well. RSV and Influenza and a host of childhood diseases. Survivors develop lasting immunity until the immune system becomes degraded due to age, or dysregulated due to obesity.
The young are more protected because the virus is not novel, its a distant variant of common coronavirus so kids due to frequent exposure have plenty of secretory mucosal IgA and cross reactive T-Cells.
All of these are deficient in the elderly
Also kids have less complement which is high in the elderly and helps amplify inflammation that damages the lungs.
But you are correct, all viruses are more of a problem for the elderly and one of their purposes is to move them on to the next stage. Among all the diseases that kill the elderly, respiratory pneumonia is one of the better ways to pass. Cancer and dementia are cruel deaths
When someone (ie you, IMO erroneously) writes "they created this virus to target obese / elderly" I am going to write "all viruses do" in direct response to the claim, however, the truth is viruses target hosts. They don't specifically target the elderly, or obese people, or children. They target hosts.
"They" didn't create this virus to target the elderly or the obese. All viruses do.
It seems observationally / anecdotally to be killing people, but the statistics don't show anything, for whatever reason (potentially including fraud, though I doubt the CDC could even pull that off).
It is difficult to say if it reduced deaths from virus, since Omicron increased infections but is also milder - so if you have the same amount of excess deaths, does that mean the vaccine is reducing them or not? It seems to at least delay them in 2021, because high vax states and countries look different than low vax states and countries (with the latter having large Delta spikes for excess deaths).
What about when you look at TOTAL non-COVID deaths, before versus after the vaccine rollout? There does seem to be a concerning post-vaccine increase (links below). Restricting to only cardiac / circulatory deaths could be misleading because of the phenomenon of actual cardiovascular deaths being classified under the victim's underlying conditions instead (I have seen this happen with my own eyes, and I'm not the only one), which would very conveniently "muddy the waters" around a rise in cardiovascular deaths itself. Therefore, looking at total non-COVID deaths is much more reliable.
Perhaps more importantly, it would be a mistake to regard "CDC data" as completely trustworthy. You'll probably be interested in these documents: the initial CDC death data report for 2021 stated a death rate of 841.6 https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7117e1.htm, but then they quietly corrected it 8 months later to 879.7 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db456.pdf, which is a ~5% discrepancy and corresponds to >100,000 omitted deaths among the U.S. population. Regardless, the 2021 numbers don't look good at all for the vaccine because the 2020 age-adjusted rate was 835.4, and even subtracting COVID deaths, the remaining excess in 2021 corresponds to ~80,000 excess non-COVID deaths compared to 2020. But I would wager that even the "corrected" 2021 numbers aren't revealing the entire bad news. Remember that the Pfizer and Moderna gold-standard RCTs did show a 16% increase in non-COVID deaths with vaccine vs. placebo, and if I had to bet my life on it, this absolutely was NOT "just a fluke" when taking all the other evidence into account.
(*edit: this reply discusses total deaths rather than total non-Covid**) The 2021 excess deaths question just comes down to the "anti-control groups," i.e. the states with the highest vax uptake. If the vax was primarily responsible for the huge spike in 2021 (working age) deaths, these deaths would heat-map to blue states. Instead they heat-map to lower-vax (less healthy) states. Likewise, you wouldn't have countries like South Korea, Sweden, France, etc. with net deficits in 2021/2022 working age deaths (reflecting the same performance as 2020) if the vax was moving the numbers very much.
That's not to say it's not killing anybody. Just that the stats seem to be a mirror of infection outcomes. Two anti-controls to look at here are Illinois and Massachusetts https://unglossed.substack.com/p/covid-cases-vs-middle-aged-excess - no inflection in excess deaths around the booster EUA, because unlike southern/midwestern states they did not have a wave of Delta deaths. So the question is, is the vax contributing to that modest baseline slope? Maybe. But the big national numbers that led to Dowd's celebrity claims come from the collection of states with big summer surges, i.e. from the virus.
**I'm not sure "total non-Covid" would get around the categorization problems you mention. Note that these aren't really a CDC data flaw so much as a reflection of medical record-keeping always being and having been subjective and malleable.
Very true on a generalized high death rate, but they have been trending to fewer deaths per 1000 for years (as countries generally do when they begin climbing out from third world status). That paper makes sense. Leave a virus alone and you predominantly get three primary curves followed by true
endemicity--unlike the vaccinated western world now. Check out this death rate by year curve and you can see that Covid doesn't seem to have had an impact. https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/NGA/nigeria/death-rate. And ya gotta love those U.N. projections too...so climate-esc.
I wish someone would explain the Covid and excess deaths from Afrian countries of Nigeria, Niger, etc. If Covid is causing deaths and then heart attacks, which I do believe it is here, why isn't it happening in those countries? It's not Vitamin D as they have been tested as relatively low in the recent past. They were, however, very late on starting the mRNA experiment (the sweet spot appears to be low vaccination rates prior to or going into the Delta wave).
It doesn't seem like we have any data for a lot of countries more recent than 2019 yet. Nigeria's ministry of health doesn't seem to do statistics. So I don't know if we can know anything about post-infection deaths. But I would predict that the impact of the virus wouldn't be very strong because there's already plenty of infections of all types already causing the same health impacts, it's just in the insulated West that you can see the small impact of the virus.
As for Delta, that would have been arriving when there was already high natural immunity in a lot of countries, https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.03.08.23286979v1 for healthcare staff in DRC, Sierra Leone, and Uganda shows 70 - 90% unvaccinated natural immunity, eventually about 50% HCW vaccine uptake in the latter two countries (mostly AstraZeneca).
hmmmm. stepping back, if the spike protein is the bad part of SC2, and thus causing illness and these circulatory deaths, then my first thought would be that the spike-only vax would encourage more of those problems. Are there any suggestions here regarding the role that the nucleocapsid is playing in either direct harm or "turbo-charging" of the spike that would create more of a viral infection circulatory problem than a vax circulatory problem?
When it comes to the deaths stats there's the argument that "same is more," because sans the vax we would have been in PFE / reversion to mean territory, but I don't buy this, because places with less vax had actual more death in 2021 (e.g. southern US, eastern Europe) while the samers had more vax.
Everything in the virus is potentially toxic, just as with any virus, we just usually get a hold on these things when we're young and telomeres are infinite. Maybe you would expect similar clotting problems but the virus could be much worse for the heart. With another "adult virus," HIV, rates of sudden cardiac death are very high.
If E is a viroporin maybe it is messing up ion channels in heart cells. If M and various nsps interfere with mitochondria (https://unglossed.substack.com/p/the-virus-and-hpv) you probably don't want them in your heart.
Hypoxia, obviously, is directly harmful to the heart and a cause of cardiac arrest. Then there's vagus nerve stuff, potentially messing up the wiring. So while most of the research tying infections to heart complications is still a bit spurious, there's probably a link, because viruses give adults heart problems (also a second Biobank study finds a link, and Biobank is a good resource https://academic.oup.com/cardiovascres/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cvr/cvac195/6987834).
I've never been as worried about spike vs. any other protein. Lot of hype in that space over peptides, but most toxicities are going to caused by secondary structures and you've got a lot more going on in Orf1. Generally I think the toxicity of the shots would be the same for any unfamiliar protein, including potentially in terms of clotting.
I don't buy it. The LNP's, PEG and spike at much higher concentrations than natural infection are causing the excess deaths. Look at places with low vaccine update like India. Excess mortality? Not so much.
Because they are already dying all the time.
Oh and I left off treatments. Nucleoside analogues aren't given after vaccines, but they are given after infection, so that's a source of post-infection cardiac damage. Likewise for ICU internment, sedation+ventilation, for post-infection clots.
Why would US give a rival military super power the most advanced biowarfare technology in human history? They likely have every virus on earth aerosolized at this point, thousands of gallons, ready to deploy at any time. And we're going to "war" now? The only war that's happening is against the general public worldwide.
The mad scientist video, giordano at georgetown in 2017, can give some insight. (The same podium fauci spoke at that year and told us we had a surprise pandemic coming)
Paraphrasing, "going around to different cities, get the virus onboard by permeating drinking vessels etc., create a broad ripple affect to dissolve the fiduciary between public and public health. Easier for some countries to do, that have no legal, moral or ethical rules."
US gives covid/tech to CN (no legal, moral or ethical rules, answers to no one) PLA spread it world wide. This is what I saw.
https://cdn.dnaindia.com/sites/default/files/styles/full/public/2020/07/19/914264-pla-photo.jpg
All these guys, dressed like tourists, with murder in their eyes, early jan 2020. Loves truck stop, green river utah. (call em up, and other truck stops in the area, all you journalists out there. See if any employees were there around that time) Handful of tour buses full.
There were plenty of videos online at the beginning of this shit, "tourists" systematically walking through electronics stores intentionally wiping their hands on all the displays, one, to the next one 5 seconds later, to the next display 5 seconds later. I wonder what they were wiping on the displays? Touch infected display, buy a bag of chips, walk out and you're eating lab strain covid.
Can't find any of these videos now. Somehow memory holed. Didn't google build CN's hightech slave apparatus? Thousands of mobile execution vans dispatched to harvest the organs of the wrong thinkers? Sounds like a fun place.
Anyway, I got got. Five people per isle in a small truck stop, if there was a box with 20 snickers, the person would cough on their hands, pick up 20 snickers bars, rub them all down and then move to the next item. Chex mix? Gotta cough all over my hands and wipe all those down too.
All you could hear was coughing in the joint. 100 people all coughing, rubbing down everything. Made my way to the soda dispenser, which each nozzle was being fingered by a military operator, was about to start filming but I thought you know, I'm just going to take a leak, buy my gas and get the hell out of here. Walk to the restroom, 3 military operators walking out coughing, take a leak and come out 2 minutes later. Everyone gone.
Asked the clerk, what the hell was that? They said no clue, they didn't even buy anything. Passed the buses five miles down the road.
Gotta be thousands of hours of cctv footage of this shit out there. Not really going to matter in the end, but there it is. "tourists" spreading this shit everywhere. Thanks US. Thanks CN.
All this is, is a global gang initiation. CN was living in the stone age 50 years ago, US conv. oil peaked 1970, US then built CN energy infrastructure from scratch and started exporting manufacturing to slave labor to keep the gravy train running. Couple gov bed fellows..
Global conv. oil supply entered permanent decline in 2008. We'd all already be dead by now if it weren't for shale. Bought us 15 more years of life. Drilling 5 mile wells through the hardest rocks, all at a financial loss, miles of tubing per well, miles of cement, exploding said rocks, pumping in 100's of tankers trucks full of fracking fluiding into the well to displace the oil, separate it above ground. For a 2 year well...
Shales finishing right now. The game's already over.
We've had a continuously growing energy supply for centuries (energy = economic growth, machines powered by energy replacing human labor) Every economist on earth operates from the notion that energy is infinite. This is about to become an out dated model.
There's no more economic growth coming in your lifetimes. Try to wrap your head around that.
The covid saga starts to make a lot more sense with this information, along with 15 minute cities, "green energy" built by petroleum input, EV push even though battery minerals are already maxed out at less than 1% of vehicles, no more meat because livestock eats the majority of crops that take oil to grow every step of the way, climate change/we're all dead if we don't stop using oil even though we can no longer increase output. Legacy oil companies the biggest funders of the green movement, gets the heat off their backs. Trick the true believers in the state in order to escape any blame or accountability.
So there you have it. No more economic growth for anyone (is math still allowed?), US and CN ran covid as a pre extermination gang initiation, everyone has aids now and will be easier to kill when the energy supply really starts declining in the next few years.
The whole response worldwide, you noticed, almost every country ran the CN central gov protocol. Nothing based on anything helpful. Everything based on harm and domination. This is the model for humanity in the post growth world. A giant global politburo chosing who lives and who dies, in the post growth world where there's no jobs and no economy and uncontrollable crime. Well, I guess one could control it with biowarfare perhaps.
I hope the mad scientists all get set in stocks in the public square, just for fun, as we head into collapse and then die. But I wouldn't bet on it. Guaranteed we're all going to get dusted by progressively worse lab souvenirs shortly.
The vaccine and the virus are the two delivery systems of the same biological weapon. While both can be deadly, together there is a synergistic effect. Each will lay charges (spike protein antigen SPA) throughout your system. In a subset of people these charges ( SPA) persist. A subsequent infection or inoculation lights the fuse and the resulting wave of antibodies produced directs the targeting of the immune army against the dormant foreign intruders residing in various tissues and organs (including the heart) , which become collateral damage.
Mind you, in not everyone does SPA persist or is present in enough quantity to cause noticeable harm. Why that is requires more investigation. Vaccine dose variability and immune system differences between individuals no doubt plays a role
Right, variability may mean that one of the weapon delivery systems, ie the injections, doesn't work at delivering weapon. This still seems inconsistent with the extremely high antibody levels. For the same reason, it wouldn't seem that harms after "breakthrough" infection are from prime, delay autoimmunity against residual spike since antibodies are jacked up so high to begin with.
They never meant to kill everyone, mostly focused on elderly and obese. A targeted war. There was collateral damage, as in all wars. High antibodies in survivors is protective, immune system then dials down even with high antibodies and tolerance to persistent spike develops. As antibodies wane, the individual is able to be reinfected, after which the immune system is triggered and becomes intolerant to persistent spike with ramped up antibodies leading the charge and waking up and directing lymphocytes to move in for the kill . Same thing happens during boosting
Humoral antibodies are supposed to wain and then T and B cells are what take over protecting against infection. High humoral antibodies don't necessarily stop infection yet that is what the testing is concerned with. Humoral antibodies shouldn't be the measure but disease should be. Break through nonsense is lack of efficacy, vaccine failure to do it's job. I bet those people had humoral antibodies but not the T and B cells needed to stop disease.
Infection gets stopped in the mucosa. With high enough serum neutralizing abs (IgA and IgG) enough pass through to the mucosa to be able to stop infection. As they wane, infection becomes more likely (just like the common cold). Like you say we also have memory B cells and T-Cells, but these only kick in after infection. They are protective against serious disease, in theory, unless you have persistent antigen left over from last infection or inoculation, and then they may enhance disease
My understanding says any viral infection targets the elderly (waning immunity) and obese (autoimmune flooded bodies).
IMO this virus was not designed to do so, all viruses already do so.
(eg)
Obesity in autoimmune diseases: not a passive bystander
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25092612/
Obesity plays major role in triggering autoimmune diseases
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/11/141110110722.htm
Some viruses target the young as well. RSV and Influenza and a host of childhood diseases. Survivors develop lasting immunity until the immune system becomes degraded due to age, or dysregulated due to obesity.
The young are more protected because the virus is not novel, its a distant variant of common coronavirus so kids due to frequent exposure have plenty of secretory mucosal IgA and cross reactive T-Cells.
All of these are deficient in the elderly
Also kids have less complement which is high in the elderly and helps amplify inflammation that damages the lungs.
But you are correct, all viruses are more of a problem for the elderly and one of their purposes is to move them on to the next stage. Among all the diseases that kill the elderly, respiratory pneumonia is one of the better ways to pass. Cancer and dementia are cruel deaths
Viruses target hosts.
When someone (ie you, IMO erroneously) writes "they created this virus to target obese / elderly" I am going to write "all viruses do" in direct response to the claim, however, the truth is viruses target hosts. They don't specifically target the elderly, or obese people, or children. They target hosts.
"They" didn't create this virus to target the elderly or the obese. All viruses do.
It seems observationally / anecdotally to be killing people, but the statistics don't show anything, for whatever reason (potentially including fraud, though I doubt the CDC could even pull that off).
It is difficult to say if it reduced deaths from virus, since Omicron increased infections but is also milder - so if you have the same amount of excess deaths, does that mean the vaccine is reducing them or not? It seems to at least delay them in 2021, because high vax states and countries look different than low vax states and countries (with the latter having large Delta spikes for excess deaths).