Aug 10, 2022·edited Aug 10, 2022Liked by Brian Mowrey
Unrelated, at least specifically, to this latest post, but to the extent you'd be willing to oblige, I'd appreciate your thoughts/counsel, as I'm in the unfortunate circumstance where my employer (in 2022, this remains a thing) will no longer be granting/extending exemptions, and all those currently exempted will need to have at least 1 injection by Sept or be terminated. This is a publicly traded company that touts "diversity, inclusion and belonging".
All that aside, I'm weighing a number of options, including seeking another employer, though in my line of work almost all other employers have similar policies, however many no longer enforce them (at least not for existing employees; not so for inbound/new hires, in most cases).
As part of my attempts to stall/overturn policy, I managed to obtain approval to travel outside the U.S. for a more 'traditional' vaccine (specifically, Covaxin), so at the moment if I opt to proceed it'll be either Covaxin or J&J (only because it's a single shot, though I will likely only get 1 Covaxin shot regardless and do my best to stall/delay the 2nd shot as long as possible until, hopefully, these unethical mandates are lifted, sooner rather than later).
I reached out to the illuminating M.Luterra for his take, some time ago, and he provided very thoughtful/detailed breakdown of the pros/cons of Covaxin compared to the other available products.
Back to my question: if you were presented with this scenario and had to be injected, putting aside other options you may pursue (quitting to join an agrarian community, etc), which injection would you go with if you had a similar health/risk profile as mine? By way of some personal detail: I'm in my 40s, Male, active/outdoorsy; no history of health issues; taking no prescription meds. Already got covid back in December 2021, once; mild symptoms overall, for a few days, while taking vitamins/supplements/Ivermectin, though I did have a few irregular heartbeats for some time after initial flu-like symptoms waned, and occasional fatigue that lasted for a few months after that, along with some other mildly quirky issues that faded over time. I'm now largely back to my regular routine of keeping active several times a week and haven't felt any odd heart-related irregularities since early this year, though my reaction to natural infection, relatively mild overall, concerns me a bit that -- if I opt to go with one of the shots -- I may react negatively to it, more so than perhaps others. Covaxin seems to be the option with the least potential for harm given its description as a 'whole virion' inactivated spike product, but there isn't nearly as much data on it as there are with the other U.S.-based products.
Pardons for the long-winded rant, but would welcome comments/thoughts, by you (Brian M) and others.
I applaud your "redu" of figure 1. Unlike you, I do not have a "superhuman hatred of all things OAS" (I am a work in progress) and I gave up trying to understand the HCW portion of the study (particularly after viewing diagram S1). It's frustrating how they can have centralized healthcare (so they should have loads of useful data), but this convoluted and confounding garbage is what they publish. It makes me wonder if it's just Imperial College of London providing more fodder for the fear-mongers (and I am disappointed in Dr. Malone's "well, this seems troubling" assessment of the study as well).
Kudos to you & Mod Discontent for taking the time to assess these studies without the hysteria.
In general it really is strange how such studies are being used almost like reading tea leaves and predicting. Yeah, Wuhan spike vaccines will boost Wuhan more than Omicron, which we know is already a pretty big escape variant and yet we are shocked. I think the biggest problem with these types of studies is that it muddies the waters even further. It's another example of trying to extrapolate and argue in favor of OAS but in a manner that's super messy, and in the end just makes you scratch your head more than understand how the researchers came to such conclusions.
Aug 8, 2022·edited Aug 8, 2022Liked by Brian Mowrey
Thanks once again Brian! I hate bullshit, whether it comes from the pro mRNA vax side or from the opponents. It's so destructive. It's actually stunning how shoddy is the thinking on so many publications.
Unrelated, at least specifically, to this latest post, but to the extent you'd be willing to oblige, I'd appreciate your thoughts/counsel, as I'm in the unfortunate circumstance where my employer (in 2022, this remains a thing) will no longer be granting/extending exemptions, and all those currently exempted will need to have at least 1 injection by Sept or be terminated. This is a publicly traded company that touts "diversity, inclusion and belonging".
All that aside, I'm weighing a number of options, including seeking another employer, though in my line of work almost all other employers have similar policies, however many no longer enforce them (at least not for existing employees; not so for inbound/new hires, in most cases).
As part of my attempts to stall/overturn policy, I managed to obtain approval to travel outside the U.S. for a more 'traditional' vaccine (specifically, Covaxin), so at the moment if I opt to proceed it'll be either Covaxin or J&J (only because it's a single shot, though I will likely only get 1 Covaxin shot regardless and do my best to stall/delay the 2nd shot as long as possible until, hopefully, these unethical mandates are lifted, sooner rather than later).
I reached out to the illuminating M.Luterra for his take, some time ago, and he provided very thoughtful/detailed breakdown of the pros/cons of Covaxin compared to the other available products.
Back to my question: if you were presented with this scenario and had to be injected, putting aside other options you may pursue (quitting to join an agrarian community, etc), which injection would you go with if you had a similar health/risk profile as mine? By way of some personal detail: I'm in my 40s, Male, active/outdoorsy; no history of health issues; taking no prescription meds. Already got covid back in December 2021, once; mild symptoms overall, for a few days, while taking vitamins/supplements/Ivermectin, though I did have a few irregular heartbeats for some time after initial flu-like symptoms waned, and occasional fatigue that lasted for a few months after that, along with some other mildly quirky issues that faded over time. I'm now largely back to my regular routine of keeping active several times a week and haven't felt any odd heart-related irregularities since early this year, though my reaction to natural infection, relatively mild overall, concerns me a bit that -- if I opt to go with one of the shots -- I may react negatively to it, more so than perhaps others. Covaxin seems to be the option with the least potential for harm given its description as a 'whole virion' inactivated spike product, but there isn't nearly as much data on it as there are with the other U.S.-based products.
Pardons for the long-winded rant, but would welcome comments/thoughts, by you (Brian M) and others.
Thank you for breaking down this study and pointing to the real designed and printing study. This is so important. 👍🏽💕
I applaud your "redu" of figure 1. Unlike you, I do not have a "superhuman hatred of all things OAS" (I am a work in progress) and I gave up trying to understand the HCW portion of the study (particularly after viewing diagram S1). It's frustrating how they can have centralized healthcare (so they should have loads of useful data), but this convoluted and confounding garbage is what they publish. It makes me wonder if it's just Imperial College of London providing more fodder for the fear-mongers (and I am disappointed in Dr. Malone's "well, this seems troubling" assessment of the study as well).
Kudos to you & Mod Discontent for taking the time to assess these studies without the hysteria.
In general it really is strange how such studies are being used almost like reading tea leaves and predicting. Yeah, Wuhan spike vaccines will boost Wuhan more than Omicron, which we know is already a pretty big escape variant and yet we are shocked. I think the biggest problem with these types of studies is that it muddies the waters even further. It's another example of trying to extrapolate and argue in favor of OAS but in a manner that's super messy, and in the end just makes you scratch your head more than understand how the researchers came to such conclusions.
Thanks once again Brian! I hate bullshit, whether it comes from the pro mRNA vax side or from the opponents. It's so destructive. It's actually stunning how shoddy is the thinking on so many publications.