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Igor Chudov's avatar

Okay, sorry if I missed anything, do you have the whole original PDF file? Amazing article and a nasty story

Occasionally kittens's avatar

They have vanished the article.

Brian Mowrey's avatar

Incredible! Thanks for the catch. And yet the link is still in the announcements section at the bottom of the Obstetrics & Gynecology removal page.

The "adjusted" OR rates are still up at https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35080199/ - but not the raw numbers.

John Raymond's avatar

Satan hates children.

Stoichastic's avatar

* Reads entire article

* Re-reads from subtitle. Ohhhh New York IVF. Say no more.

Did you ever hear that one about NY sending COVID positive patients into long term care facilities? Or the one where during mask mandate lockdowns the governor had maskless dinner in a restaurant?

This study, also conducted in NY, makes a lot of sense given its locale and the general wtfery that appears de rigeur for this state, spurious statistical finding notwithstanding.

Glad to hear you're tip top.

C.H.'s avatar

As this continues more people are going to consider science to be little more than witchcraft and tea-leaf readings with lab coats thrown in. Writing that your own results aren't what they are showing themselves to be should disqualify anyone from even playing with a children's chemistry set.

And yes, hope you are feeling better as others have said.

Brian Mowrey's avatar

Now I'm imagining a Star Trek parody where every time someone looks at a display, the next thing they say is "the sensors indicate that vaccines are safe and effective."

cmpalmer75's avatar

Thank you. I hope you're feeling better. Were the frozen embryos created before of after these women were vaxxed, or were they a mix? I can't tell from the paper.

Brian Mowrey's avatar

Thanks, I am tip-top.

Vax status during embryo collection for the EFET cohort is unspecified (for this cohort, "fully vaccinated" means 2nd dose 14 days before start of medication for egg transfer). But if "oocyte age" refers to age during collection than most eggs would seem to be pretty recently collected, so there could be some overlap. All unvaccinated would be unvaccinated in both stages.

cmpalmer75's avatar

Thanks. Glad to hear you're recovered.

Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

This has been the standard operating procedure for vaccine safety studies for decades. Lies, damned lies and vaccine safety studies.

Re: Vaccine safety claims do not stand up to scrutiny

https://www.bmj.com/content/360/bmj.k1378/rr-2

Institute of Medicine: Most epidemiological vaccine safety studies are useless

https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.3244496

Another glaring example of cooking the results:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC6537579/

Raw data:

"All sensitization measures (“any”, “food”, “air”) differed between the lifestyle groups and sensitization to allergens was consistently most prevalent in the non-anthroposophic group and least prevalent in the anthroposophic group"

They cooked it all away:

"However, after adjustment for anthroposophic lifestyle, no statistically significant associations remained. The adjusted OR for sensitization at five years of age in children not receiving any vaccinations (n = 54) was 0.98"

Yarrow's avatar

Thanks so much for breaking this down!

David Watson's avatar

Seeing what we want to see is our nature, a function of our biology. There is no truth, only perceptions. We need more people to learn their truth just doesn't work. They will, eventually. We can help them with encouragement. If we allow them to remain in their undisturbed misperceptions, they'll remain there. We need to become much more aggressive in confronting them. We've been too polite. Nice guys finish last.

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Brian Mowrey's avatar

I'm sure they know best. That's why they get paid the big bucks.

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C.H.'s avatar

I guess they use the error bars are their out...