"The authors checked for spike protein and report that all donors were negative. This is relieving. It should be noted, however, that anti-spike antibodies can mask circulating spike or S1 as long as said antibodies outnumber the antigen, as was confirmed by Röltgen, et al.2"
How can circulating antibodies mask the detection of the spike protein? If I had to look for spike protein in this type of sample I would probably try either western blotting or mass spectrometry of some kind, both of which will not be impaired by antibodies. Elisa type assays could probably be impaired, though.
Most of this post is beyond my scientific training--I could do a little research and probably come up to speed, but let me ask this: my daughter was born January 2022. My partner got the jabs (the first two that constituted one) in July 2021 on the advice of her doctor in order for him to “feel safe” about us traveling to Europe in August.
I was never going to justify the hysteria by getting jabbed (nor did I for a second believe the people pushing this garbage), but my partner felt it was the prudent thing to do because we are old and she really did not want to take any chances in losing the baby. So, I let her make the decision as to what to do. I, and then she soon after, got Covid in September 2021. Some vaccine.
Anyways, my daughter was born on time. Natural delivery.
She has met all of her milestones. She is healthy (as far as appearances go) and eating and sleeping well. She is a joy.
Here, finally, the question: What, if anything, should I be looking for as to adverse events stemming from the snake oil she was invariably exposed to in the womb? Should I have her get blood work done? What future issues could come about from her being exposed to that gene therapy sold as a “vaccine.”
I would say that any answer beyond ambiguous demurring and hand-waiving would require cosmic powers of insight. This, and the generally not-alarming outcomes for most post-vax births so far, is why I tab to the mundane maternal obesity baseline.
Most things fall into a spread with individuals on the healthy and disease side defined by whichever side they fall into, not by the distribution of their group. So, a healthy child is a healthy child, regardless of whatever we learn about the group outcomes of this wild experiment down the line.
The question I'd like to ask of pregnant women who are injecting the Covid vax is .... are you still eschewing that coffee and that glass of wine you crave? Why don't you just go for it .... since you have agreed to shoot an experimental substance into your body.
No comparison. Unless it turns out that wine creates anti-wine antibodies, in which case wine is obviously a vaccine now and should be recommended without question.
I guess have to give up the preaching about GENE MODIFICATIONS by the injections, people just do not listen.... Just found that one, from Transfusion. 2019 Dec;59(12):3560-3569. "A modified CD34+ hematopoietic stem and progenitor cell isolation strategy from cryopreserved human umbilical cord blood". It is about proper CD34+ isolation using CD34 microbead magnetic-activated cell sorting isolation. The conclusion is telling a LOT:"Importantly, the isolated CD34 + HSPCs possess in vivo repopulating activity in immunodeficient mice, making them a suitable starting population for ex vivo culture and gene editing."
"Effect of maternal iron status on the number of CD34+ stem cells harvested from umbilical cord blood"
with the conclusion, quote: "This study indicates that lower numbers of CD34+ cells are more likely to occur when collected from mothers with higher SF. This finding suggests that maternal SF and associated iron status play a significant, but as yet undefined, role in the generation of CD34+ cells in UCB." the SF stands for serum ferritin, the iron storage protein.
=> looks like the iron, the metal giving our blood the red color, is being re-shuffled.
If you look at the cover of National Geographic Apr 2017 titled the NEXT HUMAN and read George's Church's (MIT) comments in the 'Beyond Human' article, you can say exactly the same, what you've just said...
An interesting perspective. I noted, and maybe you may be aware Brian, that I was unsure of the actual immunization date with respect to the timing/trimester of the pregnancy, or whether the immunization occurred prior to the pregnancy.
On its own this study is concerning, but it's similar to other studies that exist in a vacuum. The literature seems to be somewhat devoid of evidence of insults during pregnancy (at least with respect to vaccination), although there appears to be some evidence of the effects of infection during pregnancy having some influence.
The problem is that pregnancy just overall appears to be a very precarious situation. The foods, drug habits, sleeping habits, exercise habits. Everything a mother does is likely to influence the development of a baby.
It's funny, because it reminds me of a lecture Robert Sapolsky gave once about nature vs nurture and figuring out exactly when one would occur over the other, and he even brought up the nurture aspect of being in the womb and all that.
So I think this study provides some interesting information, but I'm just unaware of what data to use as a reference.
Right - that's why I use outcomes for children of obese mothers as a tentative baseline. It's reasonable given that normal pregnancy pretty tightly lowers intermediary inflammation, intermediary inflammation = bad for pregnancy. Oh, I left out the paper that had that whole subject in it.
It would be a very interesting comparison. As you mentioned we're not aware of the status of the above participants so it would be interesting to see what influence that would have, and whether differences in baseline comparisons to regular weight mothers would be. The one vaccinated individual with the large Annexin result is interesting and it always makes me wonder what about that patient made their results so different.
If there’s a homeostatic pattern with annexin, in which expansion of the pool is followed by reduction, then the annexin levels in fact should all have been lower in the lower-HSPC vaxxed group. They should have been in rebuild mode, whereas the occasional high annexin hits in the control group are fine because they are (theoretically) scaling back. But since the results are not presented multi-dimensionally there’s no way to know if that’s really what’s going on or not.
Wow
Wish every mom would read this
Great article! Linking to you https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/is-rsv-more-severe-in-covid-vaccinated
I saw. But I have been on the road and unable to send a gracias for the highlight comment.
BTW, RSV probably didn't come from chimps since teens and young adults were found to already have antibodies for it from the first discovery in chimps - https://unglossed.substack.com/i/85015705/comment-cross-post-rsv-and-polio-history
"The authors checked for spike protein and report that all donors were negative. This is relieving. It should be noted, however, that anti-spike antibodies can mask circulating spike or S1 as long as said antibodies outnumber the antigen, as was confirmed by Röltgen, et al.2"
How can circulating antibodies mask the detection of the spike protein? If I had to look for spike protein in this type of sample I would probably try either western blotting or mass spectrometry of some kind, both of which will not be impaired by antibodies. Elisa type assays could probably be impaired, though.
Right, ELISA only. As far as I know the only use of gel/blot to look for post-vax spike has been in the two exosomes studies.
Most of this post is beyond my scientific training--I could do a little research and probably come up to speed, but let me ask this: my daughter was born January 2022. My partner got the jabs (the first two that constituted one) in July 2021 on the advice of her doctor in order for him to “feel safe” about us traveling to Europe in August.
I was never going to justify the hysteria by getting jabbed (nor did I for a second believe the people pushing this garbage), but my partner felt it was the prudent thing to do because we are old and she really did not want to take any chances in losing the baby. So, I let her make the decision as to what to do. I, and then she soon after, got Covid in September 2021. Some vaccine.
Anyways, my daughter was born on time. Natural delivery.
She has met all of her milestones. She is healthy (as far as appearances go) and eating and sleeping well. She is a joy.
Here, finally, the question: What, if anything, should I be looking for as to adverse events stemming from the snake oil she was invariably exposed to in the womb? Should I have her get blood work done? What future issues could come about from her being exposed to that gene therapy sold as a “vaccine.”
I would say that any answer beyond ambiguous demurring and hand-waiving would require cosmic powers of insight. This, and the generally not-alarming outcomes for most post-vax births so far, is why I tab to the mundane maternal obesity baseline.
Most things fall into a spread with individuals on the healthy and disease side defined by whichever side they fall into, not by the distribution of their group. So, a healthy child is a healthy child, regardless of whatever we learn about the group outcomes of this wild experiment down the line.
"...but hopefully not as-bad-as-it-looks finding for babies born from Covid-vaccinated mothers."
Two words that have left our pharma discourse: Precautionary Principle
Hippocratic oath has been modernized for the social media age. "First, YOLO."
The question I'd like to ask of pregnant women who are injecting the Covid vax is .... are you still eschewing that coffee and that glass of wine you crave? Why don't you just go for it .... since you have agreed to shoot an experimental substance into your body.
No comparison. Unless it turns out that wine creates anti-wine antibodies, in which case wine is obviously a vaccine now and should be recommended without question.
If I was a woman and pregnant... and was forced to take either a) the covid vaccine or b) lines of cocaine every few weeks... I'd go for b).
As long as we’re talking California St cocaine, not that Mission St cocaine, you’ve got THIS Real Doctor’s blessing.
I guess have to give up the preaching about GENE MODIFICATIONS by the injections, people just do not listen.... Just found that one, from Transfusion. 2019 Dec;59(12):3560-3569. "A modified CD34+ hematopoietic stem and progenitor cell isolation strategy from cryopreserved human umbilical cord blood". It is about proper CD34+ isolation using CD34 microbead magnetic-activated cell sorting isolation. The conclusion is telling a LOT:"Importantly, the isolated CD34 + HSPCs possess in vivo repopulating activity in immunodeficient mice, making them a suitable starting population for ex vivo culture and gene editing."
And here another one from 2014 at: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24666342/
"Effect of maternal iron status on the number of CD34+ stem cells harvested from umbilical cord blood"
with the conclusion, quote: "This study indicates that lower numbers of CD34+ cells are more likely to occur when collected from mothers with higher SF. This finding suggests that maternal SF and associated iron status play a significant, but as yet undefined, role in the generation of CD34+ cells in UCB." the SF stands for serum ferritin, the iron storage protein.
=> looks like the iron, the metal giving our blood the red color, is being re-shuffled.
Nice finds, thank you!
*edit: God, that 2014 Transfusion cover, what were they thinking!
Me thinks they are ”not thinking” this through
Oopps!
🙄
don't know, can't read their minds:)
If you look at the cover of National Geographic Apr 2017 titled the NEXT HUMAN and read George's Church's (MIT) comments in the 'Beyond Human' article, you can say exactly the same, what you've just said...
An interesting perspective. I noted, and maybe you may be aware Brian, that I was unsure of the actual immunization date with respect to the timing/trimester of the pregnancy, or whether the immunization occurred prior to the pregnancy.
On its own this study is concerning, but it's similar to other studies that exist in a vacuum. The literature seems to be somewhat devoid of evidence of insults during pregnancy (at least with respect to vaccination), although there appears to be some evidence of the effects of infection during pregnancy having some influence.
The problem is that pregnancy just overall appears to be a very precarious situation. The foods, drug habits, sleeping habits, exercise habits. Everything a mother does is likely to influence the development of a baby.
It's funny, because it reminds me of a lecture Robert Sapolsky gave once about nature vs nurture and figuring out exactly when one would occur over the other, and he even brought up the nurture aspect of being in the womb and all that.
So I think this study provides some interesting information, but I'm just unaware of what data to use as a reference.
Right - that's why I use outcomes for children of obese mothers as a tentative baseline. It's reasonable given that normal pregnancy pretty tightly lowers intermediary inflammation, intermediary inflammation = bad for pregnancy. Oh, I left out the paper that had that whole subject in it.
It would be a very interesting comparison. As you mentioned we're not aware of the status of the above participants so it would be interesting to see what influence that would have, and whether differences in baseline comparisons to regular weight mothers would be. The one vaccinated individual with the large Annexin result is interesting and it always makes me wonder what about that patient made their results so different.
If there’s a homeostatic pattern with annexin, in which expansion of the pool is followed by reduction, then the annexin levels in fact should all have been lower in the lower-HSPC vaxxed group. They should have been in rebuild mode, whereas the occasional high annexin hits in the control group are fine because they are (theoretically) scaling back. But since the results are not presented multi-dimensionally there’s no way to know if that’s really what’s going on or not.