Appreciate you persevering through these posts Brian. There's a lot to consider when looking at immunity and it's strange how quickly researchers and those in the public will be quick to jump onto results that align with their perspectives. Never has the immune system been both so complex and so heavily simplified! But anyways I'm glad that your providing continues pushback against staunch OAS believers.
At this point I am apparently the world’s foremost “OAS is not real” point-outer. No one has pointed it out as much as me. How do I do it? Russian biker drugs.
Can I ask which evidence you are looking at that is leaning you towards OAS being real? I'm always curious what other people are looking at.
For me, the biggest issue is that OAS isn't even OAS as people are describing it. OAS, by virtue of its name, depends upon the antigen being examined. So at least with COVID there really should be no bearing on the Nucleocapsid and the Spike, because, as I have argued, there really is no way for your immune system to somehow know that the antigen it is seeing is derived from the same pathogen. Based on that my argument as to why no anti-N antibodies are being produced may be because it's not necessary to eliminate the virus- if you can target the spike and get the job done you may not need to target the N protein. Also, since the N protein is sequestered in the virus you may not be able to notice it until it gets exposed via viral replication, although it can still likely be noticed through digestion of the virions and other activities like that.
At least that's my perspective on things, I tend to lean towards Brian because I don't find the OAS argument to be as substantive as I would like it to be in order to consider it as a possible phenomenon.
Well, you may need to employ yourself as the OAS "Fact-checker" as it is likely to come up more and more. I became curious and am looking up a topic that seems to run in the COVID dissenting circles. I'm becoming more concerned that we're just seeing a pendulum swing on our side where every little thing is going to kill us now and we're all doomed to a future of misery.
Is the PCR methodology used in this study outlined? Hasn't FDA RT PCR EUA for CoV2 been twilighted ? Since the Cov2 PCR tests are abject fraud seems quite the waste of time and kilobytes to me. The chicanery starts long before study design.
Which one? The Moderna paper is RE the trial and so there are huge problems with relying on PCR, that’s essentially the point - the trial is just designed in advance so that the problems favor their endpoint. So going back into the trial to infer other conclusions is like wading into nuclear waste. Here the PCR is “illness visit-prompted” which means participants reported one/two or more symptoms including “headache” or “cough.” So comparing a frequent outcome (placebo PCR+) to a rare one (vaxx PCR+) is crazy because the rare one might be full of false positives per math, which is evil.
If OAS was not a thing, Thomas Francis, a lifelong failure and hack, and the man personally responsible for fudging the Salk polio vaxx trial results, would have come up with it...
Appreciate you persevering through these posts Brian. There's a lot to consider when looking at immunity and it's strange how quickly researchers and those in the public will be quick to jump onto results that align with their perspectives. Never has the immune system been both so complex and so heavily simplified! But anyways I'm glad that your providing continues pushback against staunch OAS believers.
At this point I am apparently the world’s foremost “OAS is not real” point-outer. No one has pointed it out as much as me. How do I do it? Russian biker drugs.
I really hope you're correct about OAS. I'm still leaning toward it's happening, but would rather not believe it.
Can I ask which evidence you are looking at that is leaning you towards OAS being real? I'm always curious what other people are looking at.
For me, the biggest issue is that OAS isn't even OAS as people are describing it. OAS, by virtue of its name, depends upon the antigen being examined. So at least with COVID there really should be no bearing on the Nucleocapsid and the Spike, because, as I have argued, there really is no way for your immune system to somehow know that the antigen it is seeing is derived from the same pathogen. Based on that my argument as to why no anti-N antibodies are being produced may be because it's not necessary to eliminate the virus- if you can target the spike and get the job done you may not need to target the N protein. Also, since the N protein is sequestered in the virus you may not be able to notice it until it gets exposed via viral replication, although it can still likely be noticed through digestion of the virions and other activities like that.
At least that's my perspective on things, I tend to lean towards Brian because I don't find the OAS argument to be as substantive as I would like it to be in order to consider it as a possible phenomenon.
Well, you may need to employ yourself as the OAS "Fact-checker" as it is likely to come up more and more. I became curious and am looking up a topic that seems to run in the COVID dissenting circles. I'm becoming more concerned that we're just seeing a pendulum swing on our side where every little thing is going to kill us now and we're all doomed to a future of misery.
You mean humans aren't immortal anymore, like we used to be for all of history?!?!
I mean, why else would we all be charged so heavily for life insurance?!
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Is the PCR methodology used in this study outlined? Hasn't FDA RT PCR EUA for CoV2 been twilighted ? Since the Cov2 PCR tests are abject fraud seems quite the waste of time and kilobytes to me. The chicanery starts long before study design.
Which one? The Moderna paper is RE the trial and so there are huge problems with relying on PCR, that’s essentially the point - the trial is just designed in advance so that the problems favor their endpoint. So going back into the trial to infer other conclusions is like wading into nuclear waste. Here the PCR is “illness visit-prompted” which means participants reported one/two or more symptoms including “headache” or “cough.” So comparing a frequent outcome (placebo PCR+) to a rare one (vaxx PCR+) is crazy because the rare one might be full of false positives per math, which is evil.
Love the term psyop-sy! 😄 And your scientific term bonkers - "indicative of the consciousness of the observer in quantum physics".
Validated by ACME Bonk Assay as described in Methods.
Great article, to be honest I am tired today, but I will read it later.
If OAS was not a thing, most 65+ year olds in the UK would be N-seropositive after Omicron. But they are not
If OAS was not a thing, Thomas Francis, a lifelong failure and hack, and the man personally responsible for fudging the Salk polio vaxx trial results, would have come up with it...