You guys are such racists... This didn't come from a lab! It came from the disgusting garbage that weird Chinese people eat!! I hope you all catch global warming!
Hog badger, Complex-toothed squirrel, Beauty Rat Snake, Red Large-toothed Snake, Monocled Cobra, Big-eyed Rat Snake? These are the most awesome names in history. If I ever get back in to online gaming I am making a Monocled Cobra avatar, or maybe a complex-toothed squirrel? Man those are great.
But what actually interested me in the report is that it said, 'Some would prove to be PCR positive for SARS-CoV-2, mostly in the western corner where many animal stalls were located', if all of these people are getting sick, if this is a pandemic that spreads rapidly through humans, why after multiple people are sick are surfaces near the animal stalls where the virus MOSTLY is?
So, Wuhan in December appears to have highs around 10C which is colder than any tests I can find of 'the virus' on surfaces, but almost any UV appears to wipe it out. If we are generous and assume very little sunlight then the viral source was less than a week old on those surfaces, any sun and it had to be there that day basically. But anyway, the whole thing makes no sense. There is no claim of surface transmission, the claim is that someone ATE the animals still right? Unless we picture a sick raccoon dog or bat coughing up their lungs around the stall all day what is supposed to be the takeaway from these surface swabs?
I'll just stick to "Siberian weasel" (vocalized in tune of "American woman").
RE virus localization - testing was biased toward the southern half of the west wing of the market. There's a bit of a "hot splotch" of PCR+'s in the upper western part of that testing bomb, around where animals are. So it was never implausible that "animals were sick," and this could amplify positivity rates just by making it more likely that virus-gene-having-residues were on surfaces (because humans don't poop on the ground and rub walls with their noses as much as other animals).
PCR-positivity and animal genes cannot reveal anything about the origins since the samples are taken in January - if these were samples from the previous June - September, that would be interesting. Only the virus's genes could still reveal something in January, and that isn't what this report finds any nuggets in.
True. I just can't come up with a plausible way that this data tells anyone anything useful. The more you try and parse something useful out of it the more clear it is that there is nothing meaningful there.
A brutal truth from retired former head of research for a global energy trading firm:
The Everything Crisis
THE ANATOMY OF A SUPER-BUST
Introduction
Even the most cursory glance at economic and financial history will reveal a litany of bubbles and booms, crashes and crises. We’ve seen numerous instances of speculative manias, real estate bubbles, market collapses and banking crises. Even the dot-com bubble of 1995-2000 wasn’t really ‘a first’, since there’s at least one previous instance – the Railway Mania of the 1840s – of the public being blinded to reality by the glittering allure of the latest vogue in technology.
You’d be wrong, though, if you concluded that “there’s nothing new under the Sun” about what we’re experiencing now. The coming crunch – for which the best shorthand term might be ‘the everything crisis’ – sets new precedents in at least two ways.
First, it’s unusual for all of the various forms of financial crises to happen at the same time. Even the global financial crisis (GFC) of 2008-09 wasn’t an ‘everything crisis’. Now, though, it’s quite possible that we’re experiencing the start of a combined stock, property, banking, financial, economic and technological crisis, with ‘everything happening at once’.
Second, all previous crises have occurred at times when secular (non-cyclical) economic growth remained feasible. This enabled us to ‘grow out of’ these crises, much as youngsters ‘grow out of’ childhood ailments.
No such possibility now exists.
The true story of modern economic and financial history involves, on the one hand, the ending and reversal of centuries of economic expansion and, on the other, an absolute refusal to come to terms with this reality.
What follows is an attempt to tell that story as briefly as possible.
Hall monitors. Yep. I think they would have taken the hall monitor job in school if available. Feels empowering to have your hands on some levers of control.
They should have claimed it came from a horndog like Clinton.
More believable.
You guys are such racists... This didn't come from a lab! It came from the disgusting garbage that weird Chinese people eat!! I hope you all catch global warming!
Hog badger, Complex-toothed squirrel, Beauty Rat Snake, Red Large-toothed Snake, Monocled Cobra, Big-eyed Rat Snake? These are the most awesome names in history. If I ever get back in to online gaming I am making a Monocled Cobra avatar, or maybe a complex-toothed squirrel? Man those are great.
But what actually interested me in the report is that it said, 'Some would prove to be PCR positive for SARS-CoV-2, mostly in the western corner where many animal stalls were located', if all of these people are getting sick, if this is a pandemic that spreads rapidly through humans, why after multiple people are sick are surfaces near the animal stalls where the virus MOSTLY is?
So, Wuhan in December appears to have highs around 10C which is colder than any tests I can find of 'the virus' on surfaces, but almost any UV appears to wipe it out. If we are generous and assume very little sunlight then the viral source was less than a week old on those surfaces, any sun and it had to be there that day basically. But anyway, the whole thing makes no sense. There is no claim of surface transmission, the claim is that someone ATE the animals still right? Unless we picture a sick raccoon dog or bat coughing up their lungs around the stall all day what is supposed to be the takeaway from these surface swabs?
I'll just stick to "Siberian weasel" (vocalized in tune of "American woman").
RE virus localization - testing was biased toward the southern half of the west wing of the market. There's a bit of a "hot splotch" of PCR+'s in the upper western part of that testing bomb, around where animals are. So it was never implausible that "animals were sick," and this could amplify positivity rates just by making it more likely that virus-gene-having-residues were on surfaces (because humans don't poop on the ground and rub walls with their noses as much as other animals).
PCR-positivity and animal genes cannot reveal anything about the origins since the samples are taken in January - if these were samples from the previous June - September, that would be interesting. Only the virus's genes could still reveal something in January, and that isn't what this report finds any nuggets in.
True. I just can't come up with a plausible way that this data tells anyone anything useful. The more you try and parse something useful out of it the more clear it is that there is nothing meaningful there.
When the story first broke, I made the following prediction on Twitter:
"Fearless forecast:
Within 24 hours, there will be a dozen news articles extolling the importance of the new article, whenever it gets published.
This will include press releases from authors' universities and most will have direct quotes."
https://twitter.com/CharlesRixey/status/1636789064132337664?s=20
Within 13 hours, there were 18, lol. Once a couple of the puff-pieces were syndicated, there were more than 100 a few hours after that.
That's nothing. I found H2O molecules at Loch Ness!
My apologies for using Twitter shorthand, but:
🤡🌎
The pretend-to-provings will continue until morale improves - zoonati motto
I'm workin' on it! 🥵
A brutal truth from retired former head of research for a global energy trading firm:
The Everything Crisis
THE ANATOMY OF A SUPER-BUST
Introduction
Even the most cursory glance at economic and financial history will reveal a litany of bubbles and booms, crashes and crises. We’ve seen numerous instances of speculative manias, real estate bubbles, market collapses and banking crises. Even the dot-com bubble of 1995-2000 wasn’t really ‘a first’, since there’s at least one previous instance – the Railway Mania of the 1840s – of the public being blinded to reality by the glittering allure of the latest vogue in technology.
You’d be wrong, though, if you concluded that “there’s nothing new under the Sun” about what we’re experiencing now. The coming crunch – for which the best shorthand term might be ‘the everything crisis’ – sets new precedents in at least two ways.
First, it’s unusual for all of the various forms of financial crises to happen at the same time. Even the global financial crisis (GFC) of 2008-09 wasn’t an ‘everything crisis’. Now, though, it’s quite possible that we’re experiencing the start of a combined stock, property, banking, financial, economic and technological crisis, with ‘everything happening at once’.
Second, all previous crises have occurred at times when secular (non-cyclical) economic growth remained feasible. This enabled us to ‘grow out of’ these crises, much as youngsters ‘grow out of’ childhood ailments.
No such possibility now exists.
The true story of modern economic and financial history involves, on the one hand, the ending and reversal of centuries of economic expansion and, on the other, an absolute refusal to come to terms with this reality.
What follows is an attempt to tell that story as briefly as possible.
https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/2023/03/13/251-the-everything-crisis/
Hall monitors. Yep. I think they would have taken the hall monitor job in school if available. Feels empowering to have your hands on some levers of control.
She must have been encroaching on wild toddler biomes and turning up the thermostat