Pursuing national interests is rational, but in an American political context it is just a lot of paradoxes and propaganda.
The analogy to the German Nazis would have been a lot more poignant and apropos if the German Jews were kicking in their doors and beheading their children. Otherwise, it seems a tad hollow. Also, Gaza is not occupied, Gazans enjoy the right of employment in Israel and many of them work there, and Israel has Arabs in its government. So the "apartheid" argument is weak. The reason for the containment and checkpoints is that Israelis were tired of bombs going off in their public spaces. Not sure I can blame them. I'm sure when bombs start going off in our public spaces, we'll begin a new-found fascination with big walls surmounted by towers and turrets.
Well said, Brian.
I, too, can't help but notice the hypocrisy and inconsistent moral reasoning of the types you mention. I do, however, differ in the categorization of A.B. (and the Free Press lot at Substack) as classical liberals, because I believe they are a little too statist to fit neatly into that category; In our ever-shifting (always leftwards for some reason) political landscape, classical liberals are now considered right of right-of-center, and libs like A.B., B. Weiss, etc have moved from left-of-center into the center-right. That's how I see it anyway. In the very least, it's shifting in that direction. This distinction matters, in my view. Because official public discourse, as you know, is parameterized within a center-left/ center/center-right framework (The is consensus making machine controlling all formal ideas and opinions). Anyhow, you're right, the classical lib position is rapidly departing the scene. How long the Berenson, Weiss, Murray, etc types hold onto the center-right position that they are being shoved into is anyone's guess. Anyhow, as I already said, that's how I see it.
“We’ve tried peace. It didn’t work. The enemy seeks nothing less than to repudiate our right to exist as a nation. Therefore: We now do what the “provocateur” has sought to do to us, and destroy them.”
I’d like to add that the first premise was never true. They never tried peace. Only one PM tried a semblance of it - Yitzhak Rabin - and they killed him.
What they did is forced an unbearable unsustainable cruel “might makes right” with our approval on the people they drove out of their homes and into the equivalent of an open air prison.
The fact is, even though the arguments of Hitler and Berenson sound similar, the adversaries of Germany did nothing of the sort to Germans. Therefore, although in the face of it they might sound similar, in context the latter is a predictable reaction to persistent injustice.
Once you deny them the first premise, the rest of the argument falls apart and the roles of villain and victim become obvious.
Israel could live in peace- if people would stop funding Hamas, a worldwide acknowledged terrorist group. Biden/Obama could not allow the Israel /Saudi Arabia accord succeed like the UAE/Israel one did, so they gave 6 billion to Iran. This is similar to when Obama gave 1 billion in cash (on pallets) and gold bars to Iran and 221 million to Palestine on his last day in office. Palestine elected Hamas as their leadership in 2006, there hasn’t been an election since but informal polls show that the people would overwhelmingly elect them again. Well, why would ANYONE in their right mind give cash to a terrorist organization or a country that gives it to them? Give food or medicine but nothing else.
What baffles me, truly baffles me, is you see these highly organized pro-Palestine protests in major cities and then very angry pro-Israel people screaming at them. All of those people voted Democrat. They all voted for this outcome. They all thought that they were on the same side-no there are people in America who hate us but still live here. And Democrats want more of them. So many millions of refugees would be so grateful to come here, but Democrats, in particular then Obama and Biden administrations want those people to come here. Not Yazidis, who were being literally eradicated by ISIS, no they weren’t allowed. Yazidi’s would have made great Americans. How did so many supposedly thinking people really believe the anti-Trump propaganda? He is the only President to visit Israel and the wailing wall.
I don’t know the correct force to deal with Hamas now, they committed atrocities and the reaction must be harsh and severe. But it will ruin peace in the region because now there can be no SA/Israel accord. Just like Biden/Obama wanted it.
Here's some partisan but plaintive "onlooker, why you no OUTRAGE??!!?" article suggesting that, in the past two years, perhaps the American middle has either disappeared, or is suffering foreign-war outrage fatigue, or maybe has seen simply too many media shark-jumps and dirty tricks too recently and has grown doubtful of the narrative's veracity:
Lock a couple million innocent people in an open air prison for the better part of a century after stealing their land from them, allow them just enough calories to avoid starvation, pump money into a militant organization to control them, place a curfew on them, bulldoze their homes occasionally, bomb them now and again, then act surprised when a few of them do something horrific. Israel's policy in a nut shell.