Solving nothing but creating a huge bureaucracy that’s already over bloated. The way to reduce immigration by statistically significant number is simply overhaul our central and south American foreign policy. And all prohibition, fix loopholes in gun laws, reform business and other social constructs within those countries. Stop aid to those who abuse human rights. The reason those regions are in chaos is our foreign-policy thing You don’t even address it. Leaving you’re not qualified to have a discussion on the topic.
“Violating the constitution” is never the right fucking answer, bro. Half of that if not more is completely incorrect anyway.
This entire bullshit is just way too much. First, no illegal immigrants are allowed in the country. You have to be standing on US soil to apply for asylum. That is reality. During that process if they are an illegal trespasser, they are deported immediately.
Undocumented immigrants seeking asylum are not a legal residence. No more so than you or I.
The Republicans have had control far more than the Democrats of the executive and legislative branch since Reagan. Fucking institute a decent policy. I’m so sick and tired of you disingenuous assholes grandstanding on something that you could’ve fixed long ago.
Immigration is not on the list of things that contribute to our Third World shit hole status. It’s a fucking political football so that erases jack wads don’t actually catch on to things like the corporate rape of taxpayers wallet and the Earth. Who’s really fucking you over.
Also, undocumented workers contribute 5 to 30 times more than they ever seen the state and federal treasury fair in essence, subsidizing red states, with all receive more federal money than they contribute there so much a hard-working brown guys are supporting your fucking lazy white ass. And you wanna stop it. Jesus you people are fucked
Just take away their entitlement to free healthcare, education, and any government services and most of them won’t come. And those that do come will be ready to work to support themselves.
They do. At a rate much higher than any other demographics in America pay everything you say is a fucking liar. Shame on you for intentionally disingenuous bullshit.
This is the argument that pisses me off the most. You fake ass lying piece of agitprop bullshit. Undocumented immigrants receive not a goddamn thing from the federal government except emergency room healthcare and they might qualify for a free school lunch. None of that is the case. Absolutely none of your claims are connected to reality. None of it. Fuck you and your lying bullshit.
The cost to the healthcare system from illegal immigrants using the ER and never paying plus the cost to the public school system of illegal immigrant children who need the extra help of needing to learn English plus the cost to the foster care system of the unaccompanied minors plus to the cost to the criminal justice system of all these gang members. Then you have cities like NYC that house and feed them all. But go on and accuse me of lying and not at all living in reality. You’re delusional.
What about the public schools? They cost no more than poor white people actually they contribute more than poor white people because there are renters almost exclusively and that allows the landlord to pay property taxes which is most states go to the schools.
You are so bad at this dude I’m down here I mean I’ll get what you don’t or what your fucking opinion is stupid fucking GOP Donald Trump Putin Cocksleeve put a Texas policy baby opinion don’t matter if you thought about it for two seconds if they have a job with a paycheck Social Security Medicaid Medicare automatically comes out they’re not eligible for that stuff without a Social Security number. I’m done here you fucking raise my blood pressure number how fucking well I’m profess the truth I’m sure you’re not gonna graphic. Say hello to Felicia for me ciao bitch
All of that is absolute bullshit that you’re just making up. If that was true you would have credible citations. You’re really fucking stupid if you think I’m a stupid
All of it. The only thing undocumented immigrants receive is emergency room healthcare. That’s it they contribute huge numbers exponentially compared to what they receive and tell their citizens. Any critical thinking real human would deduce that. You’re just agitprop bullshit Putin Cocksleeve fluffer Boy. A few cities offer a few months or weeks worth of services. That’s nothing to do with the federal government. Absolutely nothing I’m sure Republican states spend far more money on shipping them elsewhere and ridiculous other measures they have no effect Than anyone does helping them. All they do is contribute
If you want to stop it, have the GOP when they are in complete power like they have been far more than the Democrats since Ronald Reagan change our foreign policy in Central America and South America concerning business and remove all prohibition from the United States, along with the closing gun purchase loopholes, they wouldn’t be lining up to come here. We created the Mayham in their home country. You’re a fucking shit stain on the tidy Whiteys of humanity
Haha your insults are entertaining at least. What about the public school services for the children migrants? They get that. And I highly doubt they contribute more than they take, those studies are always bs. But even if they do I don’t want non-English speaking socialists flooding into my country and giving the democrats more power with electoral college votes and representatives. The entire point is to make us a nation of minorities and white people no longer being the majority so that we can’t work together to overthrow the ruling elite. It’s an ancient strategy. They use it in prisons. Mix everyone up and then foment racial hatred.
But yeah we should stop fucking Jo their countries and make them nice places to live so they will want to stay there. And we need to legalize drugs and they need to legalize guns in order to defund the cartels. And we need to go after the cartels and arm the citizens and actually give a shit about our own hemisphere instead of the Middle East but that’s not going to happen because that’s not what the Jewish Lobby wants.
None should come through Mexico, and none should have come from many of the places that have dominated formal refugee admits since 1980. In California I do not mind this result, because you get compensation: You get California. In rest of America, suburbs, here is a person from Africa, here is a person from India, no, it doesn't work, even if many fit in, you can't run a bike with broken chain links. It's not a society or country, it's nothing.
That’s not realistic. If we keep the incentives to come, especially if South America continues to be a sucky place to live, they will continue to come. You would have to put a full army on the border and be willing to open fire on those trying to cross. There is no political will for that. Maybe you could convince people to stop spending money on immigrants. You’re not playing a video game, this is real life, and you have to be realistic.
I am talking about 1 current trans-Mexico land migrations 2 past Federally organized injections of Africa, ME, SAsia "refugees" into metros for no reason. So my comment is disorganized, but at the same time, no, not unrealistic. As for 2 it was totally frivolous and never should have happened, never needed to happen, has nothing to do with what the decolonialized world "wants," was a stupid pet project by the pre-Trump globalist US admins, deracinated NoVa and other places. As for 1 Trump potentially* showed it is possible to disincentivize this in partnership with Mexico with low energy - and like I say the world's migrants shouldn't be using Mexico as their highway/rest stop, not what Mexico is for either. *But, I acknowledge in this post, we don't know for sure if this would have been effective long-term, the lockdowns confounded.
What I’m saying is immigration is not on the list of issues that contribute to our Third World status. People like you, who are obsessed about it certainly do contribute.
The only reason immigration slow down under Trump is those people are smart enough to know they didn’t want to trade one shitty existence for something shittier. Far more residents here unlawfully have simply flown here on a plane and overstayed a visa. Any people are tripping on brown people with kids trying to escape violent chaos. Which by the way is created by our drug and gun laws. Simply banned prohibition and stop the gun show loophole. It would change the entire political social dynamic of central and South America. God you people are fucking shallow assholes. Stay the fuck away from any polling booth. You’re not qualify
(1) They don't count the tens of thousands of illegals that don't get caught or don't present themselves to Border Patrol, and
(2) The mega-crininals in the Federal government have NO intention of mitigating the INVASION! They WANT the country overrun and destroyed, so of course they will never take realistic or meaningful action against the illegals. Biden et al are puppets of the WEF, Xi Jinping, and U.N./WHO.
The elites are probably going to embrace restrictionism soon, because they see that going much further on this path will empower the right - you can look at recent Yglesias comments as a prediction of where liberal groupthink will be soon. The problem as far as the government is not what the administration wants, it's what the news talks about. So Abbot's defiance in Texas is just ignored, because it reveals that someone is defying the moral frame of the people who make the news - no one is phoning the news to tell them to ignore it.
How many cases of asylum have been approved? Only 61,000 over 3 years. Most get rejected and removed. Problem is there are almost a million pending cases.
What obligates any country to allow someone into the country to apply for asylum? Just tell them to apply at nearest embassy. Close the border to all but those with visas, US passport or proof of refugee status. Jail employer’s who hire undocumented workers. Problem solved
Drones and satellites can show anyone sneaking in for rapid apprehension and detention
Illegal immigration is allowed because its profitable. An entire industry has been set up for processing them. Those who stay become tax payers, have kids and spend money (income or benefits which come from borrowed money and not taxes). An economy cant grow unless the population grows and Americans born women aren’t having many babies.
Republicans play lip service to the issue for political capital but their corporate bosses want the flow to continue
Besides rapid detention you need rapid deportation, and this is never going to be possible for 100% of people interdicted. You need to get the numbers coming in down. So you need to remove the motivation for coming - to dissuade. This is not disagreeing with your point, just preferring a different frame. You want what "alligator moats and laser-firing-robots" achieves but by means that have less political and geopolitical friction.
And if Mexico doesn't like it let them solve their own border problem, unless they want us to take a 50 mile buffer zone in Mexico where we can build a 20 billion hi tech fence like Israel ($1.1 billion but only 40 miles) without worrying about private property owners in US
Just dont let them in, have them apply at embassy. And for those that sneak in don't let them get hired by anyone by levying very heavy fines and criminal penalties against employers.
We certainly have the technology to track the few who try to cross illegally. Put the border patrol on the ground at the borders and let them patrol instead of processing uninvited applicants. $1000 bonus for each illegal they apprehend within 10 miles of border assisted by the tech
After awhile, when they figure out the odds of getting caught are high, and that there are no jobs if they succeed, they will stop coming
Solving nothing but creating a huge bureaucracy that’s already over bloated. The way to reduce immigration by statistically significant number is simply overhaul our central and south American foreign policy. And all prohibition, fix loopholes in gun laws, reform business and other social constructs within those countries. Stop aid to those who abuse human rights. The reason those regions are in chaos is our foreign-policy thing You don’t even address it. Leaving you’re not qualified to have a discussion on the topic.
“Violating the constitution” is never the right fucking answer, bro. Half of that if not more is completely incorrect anyway.
This entire bullshit is just way too much. First, no illegal immigrants are allowed in the country. You have to be standing on US soil to apply for asylum. That is reality. During that process if they are an illegal trespasser, they are deported immediately.
Undocumented immigrants seeking asylum are not a legal residence. No more so than you or I.
The Republicans have had control far more than the Democrats of the executive and legislative branch since Reagan. Fucking institute a decent policy. I’m so sick and tired of you disingenuous assholes grandstanding on something that you could’ve fixed long ago.
Immigration is not on the list of things that contribute to our Third World shit hole status. It’s a fucking political football so that erases jack wads don’t actually catch on to things like the corporate rape of taxpayers wallet and the Earth. Who’s really fucking you over.
Also, undocumented workers contribute 5 to 30 times more than they ever seen the state and federal treasury fair in essence, subsidizing red states, with all receive more federal money than they contribute there so much a hard-working brown guys are supporting your fucking lazy white ass. And you wanna stop it. Jesus you people are fucked
Just take away their entitlement to free healthcare, education, and any government services and most of them won’t come. And those that do come will be ready to work to support themselves.
They do. At a rate much higher than any other demographics in America pay everything you say is a fucking liar. Shame on you for intentionally disingenuous bullshit.
This is the argument that pisses me off the most. You fake ass lying piece of agitprop bullshit. Undocumented immigrants receive not a goddamn thing from the federal government except emergency room healthcare and they might qualify for a free school lunch. None of that is the case. Absolutely none of your claims are connected to reality. None of it. Fuck you and your lying bullshit.
The cost to the healthcare system from illegal immigrants using the ER and never paying plus the cost to the public school system of illegal immigrant children who need the extra help of needing to learn English plus the cost to the foster care system of the unaccompanied minors plus to the cost to the criminal justice system of all these gang members. Then you have cities like NYC that house and feed them all. But go on and accuse me of lying and not at all living in reality. You’re delusional.
What about the public schools? They cost no more than poor white people actually they contribute more than poor white people because there are renters almost exclusively and that allows the landlord to pay property taxes which is most states go to the schools.
You are so bad at this dude I’m down here I mean I’ll get what you don’t or what your fucking opinion is stupid fucking GOP Donald Trump Putin Cocksleeve put a Texas policy baby opinion don’t matter if you thought about it for two seconds if they have a job with a paycheck Social Security Medicaid Medicare automatically comes out they’re not eligible for that stuff without a Social Security number. I’m done here you fucking raise my blood pressure number how fucking well I’m profess the truth I’m sure you’re not gonna graphic. Say hello to Felicia for me ciao bitch
All of that is absolute bullshit that you’re just making up. If that was true you would have credible citations. You’re really fucking stupid if you think I’m a stupid
Which part do you think isn't true?
All of it. The only thing undocumented immigrants receive is emergency room healthcare. That’s it they contribute huge numbers exponentially compared to what they receive and tell their citizens. Any critical thinking real human would deduce that. You’re just agitprop bullshit Putin Cocksleeve fluffer Boy. A few cities offer a few months or weeks worth of services. That’s nothing to do with the federal government. Absolutely nothing I’m sure Republican states spend far more money on shipping them elsewhere and ridiculous other measures they have no effect Than anyone does helping them. All they do is contribute
If you want to stop it, have the GOP when they are in complete power like they have been far more than the Democrats since Ronald Reagan change our foreign policy in Central America and South America concerning business and remove all prohibition from the United States, along with the closing gun purchase loopholes, they wouldn’t be lining up to come here. We created the Mayham in their home country. You’re a fucking shit stain on the tidy Whiteys of humanity
Haha your insults are entertaining at least. What about the public school services for the children migrants? They get that. And I highly doubt they contribute more than they take, those studies are always bs. But even if they do I don’t want non-English speaking socialists flooding into my country and giving the democrats more power with electoral college votes and representatives. The entire point is to make us a nation of minorities and white people no longer being the majority so that we can’t work together to overthrow the ruling elite. It’s an ancient strategy. They use it in prisons. Mix everyone up and then foment racial hatred.
But yeah we should stop fucking Jo their countries and make them nice places to live so they will want to stay there. And we need to legalize drugs and they need to legalize guns in order to defund the cartels. And we need to go after the cartels and arm the citizens and actually give a shit about our own hemisphere instead of the Middle East but that’s not going to happen because that’s not what the Jewish Lobby wants.
None should come through Mexico, and none should have come from many of the places that have dominated formal refugee admits since 1980. In California I do not mind this result, because you get compensation: You get California. In rest of America, suburbs, here is a person from Africa, here is a person from India, no, it doesn't work, even if many fit in, you can't run a bike with broken chain links. It's not a society or country, it's nothing.
Do you have to create community. Origin, color of skin know that shit matters. You’re such a dumb fuck. You’re an embarrassment to the species.
I do not understand or agree with anything you have said except the last sentence.
That’s not realistic. If we keep the incentives to come, especially if South America continues to be a sucky place to live, they will continue to come. You would have to put a full army on the border and be willing to open fire on those trying to cross. There is no political will for that. Maybe you could convince people to stop spending money on immigrants. You’re not playing a video game, this is real life, and you have to be realistic.
I am talking about 1 current trans-Mexico land migrations 2 past Federally organized injections of Africa, ME, SAsia "refugees" into metros for no reason. So my comment is disorganized, but at the same time, no, not unrealistic. As for 2 it was totally frivolous and never should have happened, never needed to happen, has nothing to do with what the decolonialized world "wants," was a stupid pet project by the pre-Trump globalist US admins, deracinated NoVa and other places. As for 1 Trump potentially* showed it is possible to disincentivize this in partnership with Mexico with low energy - and like I say the world's migrants shouldn't be using Mexico as their highway/rest stop, not what Mexico is for either. *But, I acknowledge in this post, we don't know for sure if this would have been effective long-term, the lockdowns confounded.
What I’m saying is immigration is not on the list of issues that contribute to our Third World status. People like you, who are obsessed about it certainly do contribute.
The only reason immigration slow down under Trump is those people are smart enough to know they didn’t want to trade one shitty existence for something shittier. Far more residents here unlawfully have simply flown here on a plane and overstayed a visa. Any people are tripping on brown people with kids trying to escape violent chaos. Which by the way is created by our drug and gun laws. Simply banned prohibition and stop the gun show loophole. It would change the entire political social dynamic of central and South America. God you people are fucking shallow assholes. Stay the fuck away from any polling booth. You’re not qualify
Two problems:
(1) They don't count the tens of thousands of illegals that don't get caught or don't present themselves to Border Patrol, and
(2) The mega-crininals in the Federal government have NO intention of mitigating the INVASION! They WANT the country overrun and destroyed, so of course they will never take realistic or meaningful action against the illegals. Biden et al are puppets of the WEF, Xi Jinping, and U.N./WHO.
The elites are probably going to embrace restrictionism soon, because they see that going much further on this path will empower the right - you can look at recent Yglesias comments as a prediction of where liberal groupthink will be soon. The problem as far as the government is not what the administration wants, it's what the news talks about. So Abbot's defiance in Texas is just ignored, because it reveals that someone is defying the moral frame of the people who make the news - no one is phoning the news to tell them to ignore it.
How many cases of asylum have been approved? Only 61,000 over 3 years. Most get rejected and removed. Problem is there are almost a million pending cases.
What obligates any country to allow someone into the country to apply for asylum? Just tell them to apply at nearest embassy. Close the border to all but those with visas, US passport or proof of refugee status. Jail employer’s who hire undocumented workers. Problem solved
Drones and satellites can show anyone sneaking in for rapid apprehension and detention
Illegal immigration is allowed because its profitable. An entire industry has been set up for processing them. Those who stay become tax payers, have kids and spend money (income or benefits which come from borrowed money and not taxes). An economy cant grow unless the population grows and Americans born women aren’t having many babies.
Republicans play lip service to the issue for political capital but their corporate bosses want the flow to continue
https://www.justice.gov/d9/pages/attachments/2018/10/30/14_total_asylum_applications.pdf
Besides rapid detention you need rapid deportation, and this is never going to be possible for 100% of people interdicted. You need to get the numbers coming in down. So you need to remove the motivation for coming - to dissuade. This is not disagreeing with your point, just preferring a different frame. You want what "alligator moats and laser-firing-robots" achieves but by means that have less political and geopolitical friction.
And if Mexico doesn't like it let them solve their own border problem, unless they want us to take a 50 mile buffer zone in Mexico where we can build a 20 billion hi tech fence like Israel ($1.1 billion but only 40 miles) without worrying about private property owners in US
Just dont let them in, have them apply at embassy. And for those that sneak in don't let them get hired by anyone by levying very heavy fines and criminal penalties against employers.
We certainly have the technology to track the few who try to cross illegally. Put the border patrol on the ground at the borders and let them patrol instead of processing uninvited applicants. $1000 bonus for each illegal they apprehend within 10 miles of border assisted by the tech
After awhile, when they figure out the odds of getting caught are high, and that there are no jobs if they succeed, they will stop coming